"The U.S. and the Taliban have struck a deal that paves the way for eventual peace in Afghanistan. U.S. Special Representative Zalmay Khalilzad and the head of the militant Islamist group, Mullah Abdul Ghani Baradar, signed the potentially historic agreement Saturday in Doha, Qatar, where the two sides spent months hashing out the agreement.
Under the terms of the deal, the U.S. commits to withdrawing all of its military forces and supporting civilian personnel, as well as those of its allies, within 14 months. The drawdown process will begin with the U.S. reducing its troop levels to 8,600 in the first 135 days and pulling its forces from five bases.
The rest of its forces, according to the agreement, will leave "within the remaining nine and a half months."
The Afghan government also will release up to 5,000 Taliban prisoners as a gesture of goodwill, in exchange for 1,000 Afghan security forces held by the Taliban.
"We owe a debt of gratitude to America's sons and daughters who paid the ultimate sacrifice in Afghanistan, and to the many thousands who served over the past nearly 19 years," Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in a statement celebrating the deal, which comes on the heels of a seven-day "Reduction in Violence" agreement in Afghanistan."
February 29, 2020, 08:42 AM
Edmond
What a waste of 19 years.
What was the solution? I'll just say the Japanese haven't made any waves since Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
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February 29, 2020, 08:45 AM
egregore
I wasn't there for any of it, maybe it's the best deal they could make. I hope it comes with a "if you launch any more attacks from there we'll come back and hit you 100 times as hard" clause.
February 29, 2020, 08:56 AM
Southflorida-law
The Graveyard of Empires. USA is in good company.
February 29, 2020, 08:59 AM
downtownv
I think we should have left after Bin Laden was killed. Glad we are leaving the headaches to the people that live there.This message has been edited. Last edited by: downtownv, February 29, 2020 10:28 AM
Originally posted by Southflorida-law: The Graveyard of Empires. USA is in good company.
You keep that fucking crap off of my board. I'm not asking.
February 29, 2020, 09:08 AM
ensigmatic
I'll be glad to have our troops out of there, but anybody who thinks the Taliban won't turn right around, take over, and resume turning Afghanistan into their view of an ideal Islamic state is delusional.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
February 29, 2020, 09:14 AM
cruiser68
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Originally posted by ensigmatic: I'll be glad to have our troops out of there, but anybody who thinks the Taliban won't turn right around, take over, and resume turning Afghanistan into their view of an ideal Islamic state is delusional.
This unfortunately. Seems every few decades they need a good beatdown. Glad to get our troops out of there but at some point it will be back to a hotbed of terrorism and base for attacks. And then they will get another beat down from somebody. Waste of a lot of blood and money for what?
February 29, 2020, 09:23 AM
CQB60
Another win for Trump
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February 29, 2020, 09:38 AM
Haveme1or2
At one time any of the "leading" groups there were just starting out to be recognized. This is just another. There will be another in the future. I think we aught to get out and stay out unless WMD'S warrant.
February 29, 2020, 09:47 AM
RogueJSK
History repeats itself with a non-surprising culmination of Vietnam 2.0.
How many years until we're doing a mass evacuation from the roof of the Embassy in Kabul?
February 29, 2020, 10:05 AM
Kraquin
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Originally posted by Edmond: What a waste of 19 years.
What was the solution? I'll just say the Japanese haven't made any waves since Hiroshima and Nagasaki...
Yes, incredible waste but your solution is a false equivalence especially since Japan has been occupied since '45.
February 29, 2020, 10:16 AM
RHINOWSO
About 15 years late.
February 29, 2020, 10:32 AM
Modern Day Savage
Considering the time, cost, and lives spent in this effort I'm disappointed in this news, but not surprised.
February 29, 2020, 10:36 AM
egregore
The Taliban are likely to take revenge on anybody who even remotely helped us. I hope those people can GTFO.
February 29, 2020, 10:42 AM
ShneaSIG
It's about time we stopped throwing away lived and money in Afghanistan. It's not possible to repair or modernize/westernize such a backwards and corrupt people and place.
The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart.
February 29, 2020, 10:53 AM
Sig209
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Originally posted by ShneaSIG: It's about time we stopped throwing away lived and money in Afghanistan. It's not possible to repair or modernize/westernize such a backwards and corrupt people and place.
agree
and that never should have been a goal in the first place
they'll still be herding goats and living in mud huts when we have people on Mars
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Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
February 29, 2020, 10:54 AM
Ronin101
its about time!!!
February 29, 2020, 11:17 AM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by cruiser68:
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic: I'll be glad to have our troops out of there, but anybody who thinks the Taliban won't turn right around, take over, and resume turning Afghanistan into their view of an ideal Islamic state is delusional.
This unfortunately. Seems every few decades they need a good beatdown. Glad to get our troops out of there but at some point it will be back to a hotbed of terrorism and base for attacks. And then they will get another beat down from somebody. Waste of a lot of blood and money for what?
THIS. That region doesn't know what living in Peace is, nor want it. I also feel you can't make a deal with the devil.