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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
it would be great if they could eliminate the Prius

Why?

The smug problem

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
it would be great if they could eliminate the Prius drivers

FIFY

Yes, they're mostly car based. I'm pretty sure the RAV 4 is a Camry platform stretched upward. But in the process of doing that, significant weight is added, as well as frontal area (aerodynamic been a big factor in highway mileage.) So they'll likely going to have a mileage penalty over the car platform they were derived from.

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Originally posted by BigSwede:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Oil has gone back to being relatively cheap and easy. Fracking may keep that going for a while. But if oil (and by extension gasoline) gets expensive again, these crossovers, which work out to being biggish cars, will lose popularity quickly.

Most of these so called SUV's will be front drive with small turbo four bangers, gas mileage is in the 30's on the highway

Toyota has always been a rather conservative company re the models they carry,

not afraid to do some good sporty stuff, but if the numbers are not right they will kill it off,

the have eliminated the Scion label, and folded the models over into the Toyota label,
surely there is a lot of overlap, and low sales for some that will make them drop a few models,

I would bet the Corolla and Camry line will stay, but stuff like the CH-R and iM will go away,


I wish they would do a proper Supra, and a proper MR2 and stick with them,,, but doubt that will happen

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Yes, they're mostly car based. I'm pretty sure the RAV 4 is a Camry platform stretched upward. But in the process of doing that, significant weight is added, as well as frontal area (aerodynamic been a big factor in highway mileage.) So they'll likely going to have a mileage penalty over the car platform they were derived from.

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Originally posted by BigSwede:

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Originally posted by BBMW:
Oil has gone back to being relatively cheap and easy. Fracking may keep that going for a while. But if oil (and by extension gasoline) gets expensive again, these crossovers, which work out to being biggish cars, will lose popularity quickly.

Most of these so called SUV's will be front drive with small turbo four bangers, gas mileage is in the 30's on the highway

years ago the Camry was the platform, and the Highlander was the SUV based off it,

IIRC the early RAV's were Corolla based,

every thing has moved up in size now,
a dealer told me recently the Camry is now based on the Avalon platform, so betting the new stuff is all 'upsized'

the new CH-R is basically the Corolla running gear in a SUV package now

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Originally posted by PASig:
I guess I'm in the minority here.

I hate that most SUV's have TERRIBLE rear visibility.

No you are not.

Same reason my wife loves sedans. She never got the knack at using the right side mirror.

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Originally posted by Edmond:
The Yaris is probably good as gone. Wouldn't be surprised if the 86 went away, too.

ooou! ooou! I have my eye on a blue 86. Let's wait & see if it will be dropped.

It's because lyft and uber drivers make more out of crossovers and suvs than sedans. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I see hordes of Uber/Lyft drivers driving plain Jane sedans.

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Originally posted by ffips:
It's because lyft and uber drivers make more out of crossovers and suvs than sedans. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

I work at a Toyota dealership. We sell lots of cars. The RAV4 is king though. I’m not so sure the Yaris will go anywhere. They need good fuel mileage cars in the lineup cause the trucks get terrible mileage.

The Prius C I can see going away. They are too small to be practical to most people. The V I rarely see but used ones sell insanely fast. I can definitely see the CHR going away. It’s disgustingly ugly and serves no purpose. The 86 I will cry cause it’s a great drivers car and outside of the Miata there is very few options for a fun rwd coupe these days.

They are just becoming more like Mazda.

Mazda makes no bones about their business model - each one must stand on its own without being propped up by something else they sell. Been that way for awhile.

For example, they sold the CX-5, CX-7 and the CX-9. The 7 was a turd and had no real niche. They gave it a chance and it didn't work out so it's gone, leaving us with the 5 and 9.

Toyota definitely did that with the Venza. What an awkward vehicle that is/was.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
it would be great if they could eliminate the Prius

Why?

Probably because he has a stereotype about Prius drivers. LOL.

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Originally posted by cne32507:

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Originally posted by Edmond:
The Yaris is probably good as gone. Wouldn't be surprised if the 86 went away, too.

ooou! ooou! I have my eye on a blue 86. Let's wait & see if it will be dropped.

Is the BRZ more popular than the 86? They're basically the same car.

I wonder which one sells more.

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hate sitting up high and feeling like my center of gravity is so high. I hate that most SUV's have TERRIBLE rear visibility.

I tested the CR-V and Mazda CX-5 (much preferred the CX-5). But vastly preferred the new Accord, and I remain delighted with it after 6 months ownership. More fun than previous Acuras (TSX, Legend, Integra), as comfortable as Legend, roomier than Legend in back seat.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
it would be great if they could eliminate the Prius

Why?

Because they emit so much smug.

The new soccer mom minivan. I wouldn't be caught dead in a four cylinder front wheel drive SUV with a sewing machine for a motor. I rented one of those on a recent trip to OK, drove it all over that place for almost a week. What a POS.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I guess I'm in the minority here.

I hate SUV's

I hate sitting up high and feeling like my center of gravity is so high. I hate that most SUV's have TERRIBLE rear visibility.

I'm right there with you. I much rather have a wagon, or a regular sedan.

Add a $2 tax to gasoline and the companies won't be so quick to stop making cars.

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Originally posted by mikeyspizza:
Add a $2 tax to gasoline and the companies won't be so quick to stop making cars.

Why not add a $10 tax to gasoline so everyone will take public transportation.

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Originally posted by jhe888:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
it would be great if they could eliminate the Prius

Why?

He’s worried a Prius might make him gay if he drove one