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What's a good battery tester out there (non automotive)?

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June 24, 2020, 10:22 AM
83v45magna
What's a good battery tester out there (non automotive)?
DowntownV's battery karma got me wondering again if buying a battery tester is worth it. I am talking about the common consumer battery sizes plus any of the button/coin lithium variety. Not a burning issue but I have been putting it off forever.

I have a simple multi meter and probes but I believe they should be tested under a small load to be more meaningful. All the ones I'm finding are extremely simplistic. Red/green, good/bad kind of 'readings'. Others that do produce numeric values are tiny and I am left wondering if they provide any load with the testing or if I'm better off with what I already have.
Who knows, maybe I just need to get a simple one and forget breaking out the wires and such. What do ya'll use/like?

I'm looking at this: Amazon



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June 24, 2020, 10:36 AM
Perception
I'm not sure that's what you're looking for. That looks like a discharge analyzer for rechargeable batteries that actually discharges them fully to test their energy capacity.




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June 24, 2020, 10:37 AM
Jim Shugart
I've been using these for years.



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June 24, 2020, 10:39 AM
FiveFiveSixFan
I've been using one from ZTS which has worked quite well on all types of batteries from button to alkaline to lithium chemistries. It's not inexpensive but they do have several models at different price points.
June 24, 2020, 10:44 AM
Perception
quote:
Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
I've been using one from ZTS which has worked quite well on all types of batteries from button to alkaline to lithium chemistries. It's not inexpensive but they do have several models at different price points.


That one looks good!




"The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."
"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."
"I did," said Ford, "it is."
"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"
"It honestly doesn't occur to them. They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates the government they want."
"You mean they actually vote for the lizards."
"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."
"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"
"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard, then the wrong lizard might get in."
June 24, 2020, 10:51 AM
FiveFiveSixFan
quote:
Originally posted by Perception:
quote:
Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
I've been using one from ZTS which has worked quite well on all types of batteries from button to alkaline to lithium chemistries. It's not inexpensive but they do have several models at different price points.


That one looks good!


I like it a lot. It's really good for applications using rechargeable lithium batteries where you are using more than one cell. It allows you to use cells which are fairly closely matched to avoid any unpleasant incidents which occur most frequently with multiple battery situations where the condition of one is markedly different than another. I use the ZTS in conjunction with a simple DC voltmeter when testing.
June 24, 2020, 12:17 PM
PowerSurge
^^ I see what you’re saying but you can’t accurately test a battery without loading it.


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June 24, 2020, 01:19 PM
220-9er
quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge:
^^ I see what you’re saying but you can’t accurately test a battery without loading it.


From a very technical standpoint, you're right.
From a practical standpoint, use the multi-meter. That's worked for several decades for me.


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June 24, 2020, 01:25 PM
jimmy123x
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:
quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge:
^^ I see what you’re saying but you can’t accurately test a battery without loading it.


From a very technical standpoint, you're right.
From a practical standpoint, use the multi-meter. That's worked for several decades for me.


This is what I've found, the voltage drops quite a bit between new and dead. While not as accurate as load testing it, a multimeter seems to do the job just fine for me.
June 24, 2020, 01:31 PM
M-11
Been very happy with the ZTS for quite a while. Some of my newer lights have built-in "meters" and double checking with the ZTS agrees, with a bit more fidelity
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June 24, 2020, 01:38 PM
Georgeair
quote:
Originally posted by 220-9er:

From a very technical standpoint, you're right.
From a practical standpoint, use the multi-meter. That's worked for several decades for me.


Agreed - it's a simple go/no-go decision with this. No need to get into a bunch of nuanced performance measurement on a battery that costs cents. Over 1.5V (etc.), keep it. Under, chunk it and move on.



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June 24, 2020, 01:41 PM
83v45magna
Could the simulated load just be as simple as a certain value of resistor(s)?
June 24, 2020, 06:25 PM
oldbill123
Analog multimeter
June 24, 2020, 09:46 PM
adobesig
Here is a really good and reasonable battery load tester for common types.
https://www.amazon.com/ZTS-MIN...d=1593053088&sr=8-41
June 24, 2020, 09:53 PM
Some Shot
Gardner Bender GBT-3502 Household Analog Battery Tester
I've used one of these for a few years and it's very handy and easy to use. It stays in the box-o-batteries in a bathroom closet, rather than getting a VOM from the shop or garage.

Also quite economical.
June 24, 2020, 09:57 PM
SIG4EVA
Could use a multimeter?


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June 25, 2020, 08:25 AM
reflex/deflex 64
I’ve been using the cheapest thing I could find at Walmart for the last 20 years. Lithium battery test perfect until they are minutes from dead, nature of the beast as I understand it.

If all you want is a green yellow or dead don’t waste any money. I’m not sure what you might find that is any more useful at any price.


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June 25, 2020, 09:12 AM
DoctorSolo
We're talking primary (non-rechargable) lithium and alkaline batteries?

Just use a voltmeter. Open circuit voltage is just fine as an indicator, and you will know the cell is bad if open voltage reads ok but the battery falls on it's face when loaded and then pulled out of circuit and checked again.

FWIW I've never really seen that with primaries. If the open circuit voltage is low, the battery is compromised and if it really matters replace it.

Lithium batteries certainly do not look perfect until they are dead. There is a decay curve directly proportional to the rising internal resistance as the cell drains. If you see less than 2.8V(or so) and the battery is powering something important, replace it.

Alkalines should be routinely checked and replaced because they will leak in due time(months) and their drop-off in cold temps is atrocious.