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The Futility of Shopping for 'Made in America'
June 13, 2021, 03:37 PM
nhtagmemberThe Futility of Shopping for 'Made in America'
so I am in need of a hammer drill to get through the adobe block in my house
so I head out, a spring in my step thinking how hard can this be...
Craftsman - made in China
DeWalt - made in China
Milwaukee - made in China
ok, so to be fair, the Milwaukee and the DeWalt both have nice big red/white/blue US flag on the packaging.
but wait, if you read the fine print, it says that the plastic case is made in China and the tool itself is made in China. Apparently the only thing made in USA is the cardboard sleeve that you throw away after you buy the drill.
looked at another drill, didn't specifically say it was made in China but it said that 'all parts globally sourced'
yeah...
well, crap
June 13, 2021, 03:44 PM
sigmoidHang tuff bro
I too am doing my bit to say screw it to the chicoms
What about porter-cable?
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June 13, 2021, 03:56 PM
V-TailI can't remember the product right now, but I clearly remember an email exchange with the seller. I asked where it was made and was told that the item was "imported."
I asked several times for the specific country of origin and they did the broken record thing: "imported" "imported" "imported"
הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים June 13, 2021, 04:07 PM
OKCGeneWe in OKC had a local Mom-N-Pop store named American Made Products.
100% American made products, absolutely nothing imported.
I really enjoyed going in and buying things to help support them.
Their
website is still up.
They closed the door a couple of months ago. Just couldn't make it financially.
This is sad. Really sad.
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June 13, 2021, 04:09 PM
OttoSigMilwaukee and Makita were always the best performing for us on site.
If you wind up choosing one.
10 years to retirement! Just waiting! June 13, 2021, 04:15 PM
old rugged crossDoes Rigid make one?
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June 13, 2021, 05:06 PM
ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
so I am in need of a hammer drill to get through the adobe block in my house
How tough is adobe block? Hammer drills can be ok for light tasks, but deeper or larger holes, particularly in tougher material, demand a rotary hammer.
I bought a Bosch 11255VSR SDS-plus Bulldog Xtreme rotary hammer for the Man Cave Project, as I had many 3/16 in. holes I had to drill into the poured concrete walls of our basement. Where hammer drills have often run into grief trying to drill holes in those walls, that Bosch rotary hammer was like a hot knife through butter.
When my well guy came to install our new VFD well pump, went to mount the drive on the basement wall, and hauled out his hammer drill, I volunteered to let him use my rotary hammer. "Nah, I won't need it," he confidently replied. I just smiled and replied "Ok, have at it." He was ok for three of the four holes. After trying forever-in-a-day to drill that fourth hole he asked for my rotary hammer. It completed the job effortlessly.
It's my understanding Bosch SDS rotary hammers are still made in Germany.
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JellyHeck even back in 1998 - 2005 when I was buying a lot of power tools made in USA power tools were getting rare. After economy tanked in 2008 just about all I could do is bow my head in shame pick the tool with good reviews and move on. Just about every power tool made in the last 15 - 20 years is made in china and or globally sourced parts.
June 13, 2021, 05:16 PM
flashguyDoes Stihl make one? (Are they US made?) Black & Decker?
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Texan by choice, not accident of birth June 13, 2021, 05:18 PM
tsmccullFestool’s German, but very pricey! At least it’s not CCP.
June 13, 2021, 05:21 PM
Jellyquote:
Hammer drills can be ok for light tasks, but deeper or larger holes, particularly in tougher material, demand a rotary hammer.
I agree 100 percent with you.
June 13, 2021, 07:18 PM
DougEA lot of what I've been seeing is products made in the USA, but if you read further, it will state that they are sourced from global materials. So basically chicom shit assembled here.
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June 13, 2021, 07:23 PM
220-9erGot to walk before you can run. Do the best you can to not buy Chicom.
This mess didn’t happen overnight.
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June 13, 2021, 07:34 PM
vthokyquote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
so I am in need of a hammer drill to get through the adobe block in my house
Is this a one-time job? Would renting a hammer drill be an option for you? Renting one that's already been purchased helps your local rental shop and doesn't fund the [non-US] tool manufacturer.
God bless America. June 13, 2021, 08:22 PM
Rey HRHquote:
Originally posted by DougE:
A lot of what I've been seeing is products made in the USA, but if you read further, it will state that they are sourced from global materials. So basically chicom shit assembled here.
But that still means at least people in the US have a job. It's not like everything you need can be made in the US today.
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June 13, 2021, 08:32 PM
nhtagmemberthe adobe blocks are 8" thick and I need to drill two 1/2" holes for some antenna coax - putting an HF/VHF radio in my office and two new antennas on the roof
June 13, 2021, 08:47 PM
MikeGLII love my Hilti rotary hammer, but I doubt it was made here.
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Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. June 13, 2021, 09:10 PM
selogicquote:
Originally posted by MikeGLI:
I love my Hilti rotary hammer, but I doubt it was made here.
Website says they have facilities in China , Hungary , and Mexico .
June 13, 2021, 09:38 PM
jimb888Chinese mfg has progressed. It no longer means cheap crap. Same as Japan in the 60's. Milwaukie use to wind all of their own motors in the US, which made them top performers. No more. Best to all:
June 13, 2021, 09:41 PM
LS1 GTOAre you willing and ready to pay 50% - 75% more and with the same warranty?
Most consumers are not and because of that, the percentage is probably higher.

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