New Yorkers are no longer eligible for new or renewal of any "trusted traveler programs" like global entry. All due to the new NY sanctuary "green light law" that 1.) gives driver licenses to illegal aliens and 2.) prohibits the state from giving any driver license info to DHS so they can process these applications!

Way to go Cuomo, protect the illegals while hurting your own citizens!

https://thetop10news.com/2020/...se-to-sanctuary-law/

The wife and I have been planning a vacation to the big Apple and surrounding areas. From Boston to Jersey City.

More likely than not, I’ll scratch that and give her two options, St. Maarten or Inchon Korea. Her choice.

The rich folk are going to raise hell

Interesting fallout from an inclusive policy.

I think it’s a great move.

Now to figure out what to do to other sanctuary states.

If you already in one of the TTP programs, you're fine. This change applies if you've never signed-up and looking to enroll or, needed to get a renewal. Either way, good for the Feds and hope this spreads...westward.

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As a result, New York residents “will no longer be eligible to enroll or re-enroll” in TTPs — including Global Entry, NEXUS, SENTRI, and FAST. Wolf noted that TTP “permits expedited processing into the U.S. from international destinations (under Global Entry); Canada only (under NEXUS); and Canada and Mexico only (under SENTRI).”

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Originally posted by Poacher:
The rich folk are going to raise hell

TTPs aren't just for "the rich." We used to boat on a lake that was split between the U.S. and Canada. Long story short: You'd be surprised to learn how easy it is to accidentally enter another country. When that happens you're subject to the same rules as if you crossed at a normal border crossing. Once you enter another country and want to come back you're obliged to reenter the U.S. You can't just boat back on over and dock or haul your boat out. Failure to follow the rules can result in seizure of your boat and all contents, arrest, and hefty fines.

Wise boaters obtained NEXUS cards to ease crossings--both intentional and accidental.

There are going to be a lot of annoyed New York boaters on waterways shared with Canada.

Stupid should hurt. And it does for New York.

Well it hasn’t hurt yet but it will

Just the start on inflicting some pain

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I think it’s a great move.

Now to figure out what to do to other sanctuary states.

Yes, I don't have a problem with this new policy, but my question is why it was only applied to New York City, and not any of the other declared Sanctuary cities. There are several other cities and states that have passed laws or implemented policies providing drivers licenses to illegal aliens.

...seems to me the DHS policy should be applied across the board evenly.

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I think it’s a great move.

Now to figure out what to do to other sanctuary states.

Yes, I don't have a problem with this new policy, but my question is why it was only applied to New York City, and not any of the other declared Sanctuary cities...seems to me it should be applied across the board evenly.

I agree and I also believe there should be some Federal standards as to what constitutes a real ID (ie driver's license etc.), who should be eligible for one and so on. They are driving on a lot of federal roads.

We have Global Entry. It’s great. You get the TSA Pre check access plus an easy trip through immigration. When we came back from Europe we skipped customs. Just went to a kiosk, scanned passport etc. then out to baggage claim. We were way ahead of the other passengers.

I'd be absolutely livid.

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
Yes, I don't have a problem with this new policy, but my question is why it was only applied to New York City, ...

It was applied to New York State.

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
I agree and I also believe there should be some Federal standards as to what constitutes a real ID (ie driver's license etc.), who should be eligible for one and so on.

There already is. I would have figured you, given your job, would know this?

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
They are driving on a lot of federal roads.

There are no Real I.D. requirements to travel upon Federal highways. Nor should there be, IMO.

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Originally posted by Poacher:
The rich folk are going to raise hell

They will? Hmm yes, in fact they just might. Imagine that. Huh, probably didn't think about all of those upset, rich.... voters.

Lots of time to stand in those long security lines waiting to take off your shoes and belt to think about who got you into this mess.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:
Yes, I don't have a problem with this new policy, but my question is why it was only applied to New York City, ...

It was applied to New York State.

I stand corrected, and I thank you for pointing that out...however my larger point stands. I'd like to know why New York was singled out when there are several other examples in which either states or cities have provided drivers licenses or state issued IDs to illegal aliens. The article seems to suggest that the New York "Green Light" law prohibits the DMV with providing info to DHS, but there are numerous other examples in which cities and states have implemented policies which prohibit state or city agencies from cooperating with DHS or another .gov entity.

Hopefully this policy, along with a package of other similar policies will be the response we can expect from the federal government when we see states or cities declare themselves as sanctuaries for illegal aliens.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by jimmy123x:
I agree and I also believe there should be some Federal standards as to what constitutes a real ID (ie driver's license etc.), who should be eligible for one and so on.

There already is. I would have figured you, given your job, would know this?

Yes, but illegal aliens being allowed to get the very same Driver's licenses in Some states as Citizens (such as NY) pretty much negates a Driver's license in those states as being proof that you are who you say you are and a US citizen.

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Originally posted by Modern Day Savage:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I think it’s a great move.

Now to figure out what to do to other sanctuary states.

Yes, I don't have a problem with this new policy, but my question is why it was only applied to New York City, and not any of the other declared Sanctuary cities. There are several other cities and states that have passed laws or implemented policies providing drivers licenses to illegal aliens.

...seems to me the DHS policy should be applied across the board evenly.

The DHS policy applies to all New Yorkers, not just NYC residents. The reasoning is that the NY 'Green Light Law' bars Federal access to the NY State DMV database (as well as other databases in New York) that the feds (DHS, DOJ, FBI, ICE, Border Patrol, etc) use to verify ID for anti-terrorism, counter terrorism, immigration, law enforcement, and obviously trusted traveler programs such as Global Entry, etc. If DHS is unable to use the data to verify identities for new applicants/renewals, they won't be able to approve anyone going forward.

It seems that 'Unintended Consequences' can be a bitch....

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Originally posted by jimmy123x:
Yes, but illegal aliens being allowed to get the very same Driver's licenses in Some states as Citizens (such as NY) pretty much negates a Driver's license in those states as being proof that you are who you say you are and a US citizen.

A state DL is not and never has been valid proof of U.S. citizenship.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
Stupid should hurt. And it does for New York.

How original