That quote is from Salmon P. Chase, sixth Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. Yeah, not so much. The Democrat Party, infamous supporters of States Rights in the post-Civil War South, once again is screaming for States Rights, and the first place you should look is California (although there are other examples as well). “Sanctuary state.” “Background checks and registration for ammunition purchase.” “MJ legalization.” “Connected to Sanctuary State legislation, further legislation that shields illegals—even those in police custody, from federal immigration authorities.”

That political party has always been deaf to charges of hypocrisy and blind to irony.

I have not been to California since sometime in the 80s for my sister-in-laws wedding. We were talking about attending an event at Laguna Seca Raceway in September. I have also never seen the Monterey area. I don’t think I can go

In the early '60's, Mississippi governor Ross Barnett and Alabama governor George Wallace were making noise about our "States' Rights" to operate separate schools for black and white. We had a HS government teacher, Bug-eye Johnson, who told us that claims of "States' Rights" were rendered moot in 1957 when Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne to Little Rock.

State's rights have been diminished since the union was formed in the 18th century. The federal government has enlarged its influence continuously. I think it is inarguable that the post Civil War era and the Depression era legislation were two of the times when large erosions took place.

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I have not been to California since sometime in the 80s for my sister-in-laws wedding. We were talking about attending an event at Laguna Seca Raceway in September. I have also never seen the Monterey area. I don’t think I can go

I hear you! I haven't been to California since the 80's either, and have no desire to go back. Maybe Northern California. It's sickening what has happened to that state on almost all levels. I just hope the cancer stays within it's borders!

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State's rights have been diminished since the union was formed in the 18th century. The federal government has enlarged its influence continuously. I think it is inarguable that the post Civil War era and the Depression era legislation were two of the times when large erosions took place.

And yet California, partly in defiance of the Trump presidency, and partly because the state is an electric shade of blue, seems to think it is above federal law.

New New Mexico needs to get serious about seceding from the Union.

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And yet California, partly in defiance of the Trump presidency, and partly because the state is an electric shade of blue, seems to think it is above federal law.

The states can conflict with the feds, it is built into our federal system. The supremacy clause ensures that federal law is supreme when there is a conflict. If you are referring to immigration law, that is clearly an area where the federal government IS supreme, and that was always the intent. The states should not get to opt out of federal immigration law.

I don't think we disagree. You are making a different point than the one I made.

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Originally posted by TMats:

And yet California, partly in defiance of the Trump presidency, and partly because the state is an electric shade of blue, seems to think it is above federal law.

The states can conflict with the feds, it is built into our federal system. The supremacy clause ensures that federal law is supreme when there is a conflict. If you are referring to immigration law, that is clearly an area where the federal government IS supreme, and that was always the intent. The states should not get to opt out of federal immigration law.

I don't think we disagree. You are making a different point than the one I made.

I think you're right

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Originally posted by jhe888:
State's rights have been diminished since the union was formed in the 18th century. The federal government has enlarged its influence continuously. I think it is inarguable that the post Civil War era and the Depression era legislation were two of the times when large erosions took place.

Most of the erosions are self inflicted. The states all want the federal money. Problem is that the federal money comes with strings attached.

An example, although a weak one, is that to this day, Kentucky would still not have a mandatory seat belt law. If it weren't for the feds meddling.