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Teachers Should Allow Ebonics Because English Grammar Is Too Hard For Minorities To Learn

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April 08, 2017, 08:31 PM
bigdeal
Teachers Should Allow Ebonics Because English Grammar Is Too Hard For Minorities To Learn
How is this any different than early American slave owners who openly professed blacks were too mentally deficient to learn anything and function as a part of civilized society?

This ridiculous broad knows absolutely nothing, and elitist academics are celebrating her (and their) ignorance while subtly demeaning a whole class of people.


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April 08, 2017, 08:45 PM
flashguy
quote:
“Just because you speak a different way doesn’t mean you’re not smart,” Gallagher told the Cardinal.
It does mean you're not smart enough to know that if one speaks only Ebonics (or other gutter argot) instead of Standard English, one will never be hired into a good job with good pay.

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April 08, 2017, 08:50 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by P-220:
The funniest ebonics I ever heard was for the word transvestite.

In ebonics, it is Susan B. Anthony.

Lol



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April 08, 2017, 08:56 PM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by justjoe:
The many faces of racism....


Yes, and what this dingbat is saying is that learning correct English language is too hard for black students.

Strange, but up until the last 15-20 years, black students had no problem learning to speak and understand real American English.

I experienced it first hand when I was teaching at Hampton U. Total black student body, I was one of 2 white teachers.

Students from my classes would speak "English" when in my class, and drop into Eubonics when outside the class room. Almost like a second language.

Just one more idiot trying to justify how shitty the education system is in this country, especially for blacks. They need a language of their own.

Or did I miss her point?


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April 08, 2017, 09:00 PM
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April 08, 2017, 09:29 PM
Icabod
quote:
Originally posted by justjoe:
The many faces of racism....


The Qakland school boarder passed a resolution about Ebonics one goal was to get more money from the government as Ebonics would be treated as a second language. The resolution created uproar.

"The original resolution used the phrase "genetically based" which was commonly understood to mean that African Americans have a biological predisposition to a particular language, "

Within a month the school board passed a amended resolution removing the phrase. Apologists claimed the phrase was "referring to linguistic genetics."



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April 08, 2017, 10:55 PM
comet24
Here I thought schools and teacher where supposed to prepare student for life in the real world. See how far that gets you when trying to get a real job and move up in that job.


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April 08, 2017, 11:10 PM
Tommydogg
She's just mad because Rachaelisha or whatever her name is already stole the spotlight for being Trans black. This is her own black thang! She jus be axin fo attenchen.


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April 09, 2017, 12:14 AM
zoom6zoom
One of our local talk radio hosts call this attitude "the soft bigotry of low expectations".

And he's right. Expecting less of someone just because they belong to a certain class or segment of society is indeed racism or bigotry.




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April 09, 2017, 12:15 AM
Rightwire
Yo Yo Yo, let me holla at ya'll. Check dis. Dey be sayin' dat like it a-rite an' shit be talkin' dis way? I'm down wit dat dog cuz, like day sayin' bein' all up in it dis' way is like...

... as intelligent as this sounds, once you consider the manner in which it is presented to you. Provided that you can decipher the local dialect being used by the individual speaking to you at the moment.

By the way, school and learning isn't meant to be easy. High school isn't meant to be easy. College is definitely not meant to be easy. Life sure as you make your first dollar isn't easy. Get used to it, buckle down and learn because as the saying says "Life is hard, but it's tougher if you're stupid". Why give life the edge against you?




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April 09, 2017, 02:40 AM
LDD
quote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
“Just because you speak a different way doesn’t mean you’re not smart,” Gallagher told the Cardinal.


Maybe not, but do you know what isn't smart? Making the choice to not be understood.
April 09, 2017, 03:09 AM
konata88
In one generation, kids in Asia speaking broken English will speak more properly than most kids here.




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April 09, 2017, 04:39 AM
spunk639
WTF is "white passing person" ?

What is she passing? Gas..
April 09, 2017, 07:35 AM
tacfoley
quote:
Originally posted by spunk639:
WTF is "white passing person" ?

What is she passing? Gas..


I guess it means that she looks like she is white, but is actually black[ish].

Maybe ten generations ago some evil whitey forced his attentions on her maternal GGGGGGGGGrandmother, and the gene has popped out, like they do, making her look like Marilyn Munroe, but black inside. WTF knows?

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April 09, 2017, 07:42 AM
kz1000
quote:
Originally posted by spunk639:
WTF is "white passing person" ?

What is she passing? Gas..





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April 09, 2017, 01:03 PM
2012BOSS302
Yo! An undergraduate researcher at da Unahversahty of Wahsconsahn–heatedahson has gaahned natahonal acclaahm for her research showahng, she says, dat members of mahnorahty groups feel oppressed by sta'ard, grismatahTaiwo cracker-ass Englahsh. The researcher ahs Erahka Gallagher, like, reports The Daahly Cardahnal, mostly, da student newspaper on da taxpayer-funded cispus. Gallagher’s research was chosen ta be presented at da Collegahate Conference on Composahtahon a' Communahcatahon ahn Portla', Orgon earlaher dahs semester. Ah be baaad... The focus of da junahor’s research ahs a daory haht on da hahped “code swahtchahng.” Basahhaht on da hahpy, man, adherents of “code swahtchahng” say dat ahndahvahduals wahll seek ta alter daahr speech patterns ta faht da group of peep wahth whahch day is communahcatahng. Members of mahnorahty groups feel especahally margahnalahzed because of “code swahtchahng, ” Gallagher’s research found. To avoahd ay hurt feelahngs some peep may feel by attemptahng ta speak sta'ard, cracker-ass Englahsh, like, Gallagher wats ta eradahcate da stahgma assocahated wahth Ebonahcs — or Afrahca–Amerahca Vernacular Englahsh, a nonsta'ard dahalect of cracker-ass Englahsh spaahahghten by some ebony peep. “I wana center da voahces of da peep who need ta be centered, like, ” Gallagher, a partahcahpat ahn da UW-heatedahson wrahtahng fellows progris, tald The Daahly Cardahnal. “As a whahte-passahng person, I 'as a lot of power a' prahvahlege dat should be seasysd.” Ultahmately, she explaahned, she wats ta expa' her research a' eventually create a nonprofaht group whahch urges teachers across da Unahted States “ta be mo acceptahng” a' ta present daahr classes wahth dahsclaahmers urgahng students ta speak usahng da laguage whahch makes da students most comfortable. What it is, Mama! Gallagher saahd her experahence as a wrahtahng fellow, whahch ahnvolves helpahng odar students ahmprove daahr wrahtahng abahlahtahes, led her ta belaheve dat a focus on detaahls such as proper cracker-ass Englahsh grismar causes mahnorahty students ta feel excluded. The socahal welfis major’s acclaahmed research ahnvolved talkahng at length wahth three mahnorahty students about how day perceahve laguage. What it is, fer shure, Mama! Don' make me come ova there bitch... Usahng sta'ard cracker-ass Englahsh as “da bahggest form of cognahtahve dahssonace dat exahsts, ” one of da students saahd. “Just because ya speak a dahfferent way doesesn’t mea ya’re not droppahn' scahence, man, ” Gallagher tald da Cardahnal. Gallagher ahs a Posse scholar at UW-heatedahson. 'S coo', bro. The Posse scholar progris “ahdentahfahes beer criblahc lahfted school students wahth extraordahnary academahc a' leadershahp potentahal who may be overloaahahghted by tradahtahonal college selectahon processes.” Accordahng ta her Faceboaahahght page, Gallagher has also been da lead cisp counselor at Burgatsdy Farm Country Day School, “a nurturahng envahronment dat engages da whole chahld” where a year of junahor kahndergarten costs $26, 934 a' a year of sahxth grade costs $30, fer shure, 814. Gallagher’s Faceboaahahght lahkes ahnclude Bernahe Sa'ers, da Internatahonal Socahalahst Orgaahzatahon of heatedahson a', of course, Colahn Kaepernahck. Ya dig




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April 09, 2017, 01:08 PM
joel9507
quote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
An undergraduate researcher at the University of Wisconsin–Madison has gained national acclaim for her research
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The social welfare major’s acclaimed research involved talking at length with three minority students

But, you know, in-depth field research like that that could have taken several whole hours. Roll Eyes

No wonder there are no links to the 'national acclaim' this earned. I'll go out on a limb and guess the 'acclaim' is all Twitter, Facebook and blogsters.

Just noticed they said 'acclaim' twice! Wink

April 09, 2017, 01:22 PM
Snapping Twig
This shit again?!

Same argument against as last time!

Dumb 'em down, make 'em cogs in the wheel and dependent so they vote for Uncle Sugar.

A real leader interested in uplifting America has their panties in a twist.

The truth is afoot and it frightens them.

Let them try, America voted - they lost BIG.
April 09, 2017, 02:09 PM
ElToro
maybe Hillary could blame her loss on her "code switching" you know where she would change her accent to the audience she was speaking to ?
April 09, 2017, 03:22 PM
Doc H.
Another brick in the wall....



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