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Yeah, I'd like to assume the best but in this case no. And like hjs, don't ask me that question.



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What would the appropriate tip be for my hair stylist when she washes my hair, scalp massage, a hot towel on my face, haircut, and shoulder massage. Cost for this service is $25. She has been doing it for years.


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A good server would never ASSUME that you mean for them to keep the change.

I frequent several establishments where I will request a certain server. The people who have been serving me for years I will tip generously.

Any other service falls in the 20% range for good service, adjustable in either direction.


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What would the appropriate tip be for my hair stylist when she washes my hair, scalp massage, a hot towel on my face, haircut, and shoulder massage. Cost for this service is $25. She has been doing it for years.
A personal service like that may go beyond the standard 20%. I would say as high as $8-$10 (but I'm VERY generous when I get great personalized service). I have a wonderful lady who digs out my ingrown toenails and trims everything else up, including my fingernails. I've tipped her $10 on $35 cost.



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I had that once where I gave the guy a fifty and he asked "Do you need change?"
Thinking he meant Do you need change before you pay? (because why woukd I leave like a 60-70% tip?) I said "no". Big Grin

A minute or two later I realized wheat he really meant, I flagged him down and said "yeah I do need change." lmao.

Probably made and ruined his day all inside two minutes. Wink


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A decent server when picking up cash should always say "I ll get your change for you". Then you the customer can say OK or no, that's yours. The option is always with the customer.
 
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What would the appropriate tip be for my hair stylist when she washes my hair, scalp massage, a hot towel on my face, haircut, and shoulder massage. Cost for this service is $25. She has been doing it for years.
A personal service like that may go beyond the standard 20%. I would say as high as $8-$10 (but I'm VERY generous when I get great personalized service). I have a wonderful lady who digs out my ingrown toenails and trims everything else up, including my fingernails. I've tipped her $10 on $35 cost.


That’s kind of what I thought. I’ve been tipping her 10 bucks for several years now. Just wonder if I was being a cheapskate or in the ballpark of what is expected.


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I was at a restaurant and my light lunch was exactly $6. I only had a twenty and the waiter asked if I needed change back. Really, you expect a $14 tip on a $6 meal?

I like to tip generously but if someone pulled that on me I’d be tempted to leave nothing.
 
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What would the appropriate tip be for my hair stylist when she washes my hair, scalp massage, a hot towel on my face, haircut, and shoulder massage. Cost for this service is $25. She has been doing it for years.



If that’s $25 out the door for all that, and she does a great job, I’d probably give her an extra $20.

Some things I tip based on what I see as the overall value to me, rather than a percentage. My barber for example. He charges me $10. Does a fantastic job (although no massage). I pay him $20.

His shop’s prices just went up $2. No clue if my cost went up. When the regular cost increase kicked in I just started paying him $25. It’s worth it to me to have a great barber who will be straight with me, be flexible on scheduling when stuff comes up, fits my son in on the occasional request, free water and beer while waiting, and is geographically convenient. He owns the shop. The extra $30 a month doesn’t make much difference for either of us, probably, but I believe it lets him know I appreciate him. And a larger tip at my visit just before Christmas.




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This seems to be happening more and more. Don't know why a server would assume you would give them a 80% tip. Maybe some people do and they assume everyone will. I hate paying with plastic but it cuts out this behavior.
 
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I had something similar happen to me not long ago. I usually try to have some small bills. Got caught short for lunch. The bill was just short of $10 and all I had was a $20. The waitress brought me back a $10, a nickel and a dime. She got a fifteen cent tip.......


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(she was a crappy server.)


You answered your own question.



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That is stealing. Your tip is what I GIVE to you, unless I tell you to keep the change.


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I would expect change unless you told her to "keep the change".


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The all too common "do you need change?" grates on me like nails on a chalkboard. When a waiter or waitress asks, "do you need change?", I most often reduce the tip from my customary 20% to the 10%-15% range. As for the OP, the waitress in question clearly outstepped the boundaries of tipping etiquette.

As someone who has spent some time in the service industry, I’m going to have to call you out on this one. In the places that I’ve worked, payment is usually left in a closed book. Sometimes it’s cash, sometimes it’s a credit card. I consider it rude to open the book in front of the guest, so it’s more of a courtesy issue that I would ask. Also, in a lot of restaurants, servers are responsible for holding on to any cash received during a shift and may not have exact change to break a bill. I cannot tell you how much time I’ve wasted having to track down a manager or fellow employee who could make change for me only to hear “oh, you were all set” when I brought the guest the change.

To be clear, I would always bring a guest change if they hadn’t said that it wasn’t needed. I’m just explaining an innocent reason why some servers will ask if change is needed.
 
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I had something similar happen to me not long ago. I usually try to have some small bills. Got caught short for lunch. The bill was just short of $10 and all I had was a $20. The waitress brought me back a $10, a nickel and a dime. She got a fifteen cent tip.......


The smart ones would have brought back a five and five ones...


 
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Not sure where you were eating but, that waitress isn't going to last long as a server by assuming to keep such a large tip.

If they've made a career in food service, they know to bring the change back unless notified of otherwise. Sounds like she was trying to pull one on you or, she's not terribly bright and hasn't picked-up how the job works, again not going to last long. I've got friends who are career servers and they've got endless stories of customers grossly over tipping or, pathetically under tipping; their remarks usually comes down to customers not being very good at math.
 
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Along the same lines, I get annoyed when the change they bring back is not broken down into increments that allow me to tip you either 15, 18, or 20 percent. If you bring me back a 5 and a 1 when your 20% tip would have been 3, you're annoying me, and I WILL ask you to break the 5, then ding you a buck for the presumption. Just assume I want to tip you 20%, and bring the change accordingly.


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The all too common "do you need change?" grates on me like nails on a chalkboard. When a waiter or waitress asks, "do you need change?", I most often reduce the tip from my customary 20% to the 10%-15% range. As for the OP, the waitress in question clearly outstepped the boundaries of tipping etiquette.

As someone who has spent some time in the service industry, I’m going to have to call you out on this one. In the places that I’ve worked, payment is usually left in a closed book. Sometimes it’s cash, sometimes it’s a credit card. I consider it rude to open the book in front of the guest, so it’s more of a courtesy issue that I would ask. Also, in a lot of restaurants, servers are responsible for holding on to any cash received during a shift and may not have exact change to break a bill. I cannot tell you how much time I’ve wasted having to track down a manager or fellow employee who could make change for me only to hear “oh, you were all set” when I brought the guest the change.

To be clear, I would always bring a guest change if they hadn’t said that it wasn’t needed. I’m just explaining an innocent reason why some servers will ask if change is needed.

When I worked in a restaurant back in college they had a policy that you never asked the guests to leave, no matter how long everyone else in the place had been gone. It was an instant firing offense and everyone knew it. If I owned a restaurant, asking a customer if they needed change would be an instant firing offense and everyone working there would know it. “I’ll be right back with your change.” gives the customer the opportunity to wave you off if the balance is your tip.

As far as a closed book, I can’t remember a time when I’ve paid without either cash or a credit card sticking out of the book so the server knew I was ready for them to pick it up.
 
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by hjs157:
As someone who has spent some time in the service industry, I’m going to have to call you out on this one. In the places that I’ve worked, payment is usually left in a closed book. Sometimes it’s cash, sometimes it’s a credit card. I consider it rude to open the book in front of the guest, so it’s more of a courtesy issue that I would ask. Also, in a lot of restaurants, servers are responsible for holding on to any cash received during a shift and may not have exact change to break a bill. I cannot tell you how much time I’ve wasted having to track down a manager or fellow employee who could make change for me only to hear “oh, you were all set” when I brought the guest the change.

To be clear, I would always bring a guest change if they hadn’t said that it wasn’t needed. I’m just explaining an innocent reason why some servers will ask if change is needed.


A tip should never be assumed and should always be at the discretion of the customer. While it is an unfortunate reality tips have come to be viewed as wages, it is still presumptuous for waitstaff to assume they are going to receive a tip.
 
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