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^ This. We don’t go out as much as we used to due to my wife’s health issues. However we go to the same favorite places when we do go out. Unless it is a new hire, the waitresses all know us and know that good service is rewarded. One restaurant we would go to, there were two waitresses that would almost race to seat us. Of course, this is in “small town”, USA. We always got/get exemplary service. YMMV and larger cities don’t (in most cases) have the personal knowledge of the owners, staff, & customers. When we used to travel, the starting point was 20% +/- based on service level P.S. I personally don’t like the percentage suggestions on a receipt. I am perfectly capable of making those calculations!! | |||
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| Like a party in your pants  |
I usually go with 20% before taxes. My delivery tip is usually $10, I take into account the usual delivery fee and still go with $10. My pet peeve now is the Extra's a restaurant wants to add on, Health insurance for the employees, I draw the line there! I won't be made to feel guilty about the employees benefits, that's up to the restaurant owner, NOT me!Don't try to lay that burden on me. I don't look at restaurant jobs as careers its a fill in type job, take it for what it is. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
I'm being equally serious when I answer this. My wife and I, if we want to reduce expenses but still go out, we order the lower priced items so that we can tip the greater of 20% or $5. I think generosity to other people is its own reward. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| A teetotaling beer aficionado  |
That's somewhat of a valid point, but still, less dinners equals less tips overall. If I'm a 15% guy (I'm not, so lets not go there) and stay home it will take a 30% tip guy to make up the loss, which also reduces his part of the tip to 15% when you tally the day's tips. This presupposes there is seating for both. Then, speaking of seating, should you tip more for 4 people than 2 given the same or similar amount on the bill? After all, most places have few if any tables for 2, so if you're 2, you're hogging up extra seats with potential tip possibilities. Not too long ago during the covid scares, many servers would have been happy with a dinning room full, all tipping 15%, rather than standing around for zero tips. And restaurant owners are generally more happy with a full dinning room. Thankfully those days are over for now. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
Yeah, but you are taking up a table that may well be otherwise occupied by a better tipper, so don't feel overly magnanimous. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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If the service was good don't penalize the server due to personal finances. 20% for sit down service has been the base tip for many years now. If the service is above or below average, adjust accordingly. | |||
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| A teetotaling beer aficionado |
And I agree with this. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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| A teetotaling beer aficionado |
Okay, but I don't know where this negative magnanimous thing came from. I thought we were having a discussion and exchanging views and ideas. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
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| Leatherneck |
Lol. On the internet it’s never simply a conversation!  The idea that you are taking up a table that could otherwise be occupied by a better tipper has some merit, depending on the day, time and the restaurant. The local Texas Roadhouse on a Friday night at 6pm has a 45+ minute wait. The little local diner on a Wednesday at 7pm is almost empty. And to be fair at the first place you might be taking a table from someone who will leave 0 tip too. On that note I do always make sure to keep table occupation time in mind. I went out with some friends that I have not seen in years to a nice place the other night that was busy and we sat there for close to two hours. We ordered plenty of drinks during the second hour so we continued increasing our bill, and just to be sure we tipped over 30% to account for our extra time at the table. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
It's a lawyer thing, where they figure out how much money they can get out of you.  | |||
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| A teetotaling beer aficionado |
Exactly. We eat several times a year (special occasions) at a very popular north side Fort Worth restaurant. You need to get reservations well in advance. The wait staff is great. They let you know when you sit down, no worries about time, "I'm here with you as long as you like" Want to take 20 minutes between appetizer and main course that's fine. Food is great and I tip generously. The kitchen is open and you can see the cooks working away. I've bought shots for the cooks on two occasions. They toast to you and drink them down. Right then, I think life is good. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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And, Consider the cumulative effects of tipping, not tipping generous tipping or parsimonious tipping. How will the tipping habits of the previous five patrons effect the quality of the service you might receive ? Will you be "that" customer that diminishes the dining experience for future customers? Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
Become a regular at a nicer place, not one of the places frequented by people who tend to not have much money. Tip well, and a good server will remember you and if they don't get you, they'll tell the server who does that you're a good tipper. There was a restaurant I went to on a regular basis on vacation. Great independent steak and seafood place. When I went in, they greeted me by name, asked if I wanted my usual table, when we were seated asked if we wanted our usual drinks. Tipping well can pay off. | |||
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posting without pants |
Depends on the place. For your average "sit down" restaurant, if the service is good I try to do 20 percent (rounded up over the 20 percent mark). If it's a casual sit down place (think in between a fast food place and as actual sit down place) where they don't do much other than bring you a try and clear plates, or like a buffet setting kinda place, usually 10 to 15 percent. The only time it goes lower is if the lack of service is the staff's fault. I'm not going to penalize the server if the place is jam packed on a weekend night. But if they are MIA, or goofing off and not paying attention to me and sitting around drinking themselves or hanging out with their own friends and making me wait, then i'll certainly reduce tip. My pet peeve, is the carryout orders where they turn the screen around now and ask you to select a tip, and have little touch screens for 10 percent, 15 percent, 20 percent or other. Why am I supposed to tip 20 percent for a to go order? It was one thing during COVID and you COULDN"T eat inside, I got it. BUt now, if all you are doing is putting my food in a bag and letting it get cold while i wait to grab it and you seat all the people in front of me, not getting 20 percent. Kevin Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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| His Royal Hiney |
One place I go to used to do that. It was a BBQ place where you line up as you enter to place your order and someone brings you the food. I think enough people complained that they stopped turning the screen around around. It was a little off putting how they did it. Let's everyone behind you see how big of a cheapskate you are is the implied pressure as the screen and the buttons are big. I'm used to putting the tip on the ticket. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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| Thank you Very little |
Several possible outcomes: Someone that leaves no tip, or, Sits at the table eating all the free bread drinking water and orders the low cost meal, or, Takes up the table for double the normal time costing you a turn over, or, Nobody could be at that table at that time frame, so zero tip, zero sales. Its really not a good argument point, since the outcome is unknown, and, it could go either way, positive or negatively for the server for any number of reasons. | |||
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