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"Without Proof"

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November 01, 2018, 10:55 PM
NK402
"Without Proof"
Have you noticed the new media mantra ? The trick is for the commentator to quote something President Trump says and add the words, "without proof". An example might be, "The president said today, without proof, that the immigrant caravan may contain dangerous criminals." I don't recall them saying, "President Obama said today, without proof, that if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
November 02, 2018, 12:41 AM
newtoSig765
Even Fox News used it in a story about Trump yesterday or the day before. Very arrogant and annoying.


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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
-- H L Mencken

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November 02, 2018, 05:31 AM
gearhounds
All those poor little men of fighting age couldn’t possibly contain criminals, drug cartel members, gang bangers, or even terrorists, could they? By law of averages, they are most certainly among their number. Hell, I have all the proof I need when they are burning our flag, flying theirs, and demanding unrestricted entry that they are criminals.




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November 02, 2018, 06:10 AM
stiab
Yes, it is common now. AP is one of the worst in their written 'news', they use it constantly.


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November 02, 2018, 06:25 AM
mbinky
Just more proof that the media truly are the enemy of the people. 1930's Germany has nothing on the modern American leftist and their "journalism".
November 02, 2018, 07:42 AM
Cousin Vinnie
Most of the mainstream media are SCUM BAGS and in the bag for liberal, progressive democrats, socialist, illegals, MS 13, trans/gay/lesbian, ANTIFA and every other anti American fringe and radical group. They should be shot with shit and killed for stinking!
November 02, 2018, 08:19 AM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by newtoSig765:
Even Fox News used it in a story about Trump yesterday or the day before. Very arrogant and annoying.

Since Roger Ailes was forced out, Fox News has begun to drift downward. Certainly "anchor" Shepard Smith is leftist and lets it show every day.



quote:
Originally posted by Cousin Vinnie:
Most of the mainstream media are SCUM BAGS and in the bag for liberal, progressive democrats, socialist, illegals, MS 13, trans/gay/lesbian, ANTIFA and every other anti American fringe and radical group. They should be shot with shit and killed for stinking!

The MSM is Pravda for the DNC.



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November 02, 2018, 08:26 AM
stickman428
And yet the worthless goddamed media will report all kinds of stories and rumors “without proof”.

Fuck
The
Media

Their double standard is infuriating. It’s mainly why I have cut off my TV, and quit listening to major media outlets.


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November 02, 2018, 08:35 AM
signewt
quote:
media will report all kinds of stories and rumors “without proof”.


....[overlooking the entire month of September] claims by a private party against a Supreme Court nominee being entirely WITHOUT PROOF conveniently ignored-----

The Media continues to act much like a pithed frog, demonstrating their current function and
effectiveness doesn't require any higher level frog-brain to produce the reflex spasm of their audience/cheering throngs.


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November 02, 2018, 08:56 AM
sigmonkey


with proof.




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November 02, 2018, 09:06 AM
Pipe Smoker
quote:
Originally posted by stiab:
Yes, it is common now. AP is one of the worst in their written 'news', they use it constantly.

Agree that AP is one of the worst. Maybe the worst. The Dem’s house organ.



Serious about crackers.
November 02, 2018, 09:07 AM
12131
My rule of thumb is this. Anything negative about the President and his administration that is reported by the corrupt media is not to believed. Fake news, twisted facts, bent truth, all designed to bring him down, and still, he's standing tall. Fuck the media, or should I say, the right left arm of the GDCs.

God Bless President Trump!


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November 02, 2018, 11:01 AM
newtoSig765
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Since Roger Ailes was forced out, Fox News has begun to drift downward. Certainly "anchor" Shepard Smith is leftist and lets it show every day...

True. We keep a supply of CSI-Miami reruns recorded to watch when he's on. In fact, it may have been John Roberts who used the phrase.


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Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
-- H L Mencken

I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is.
-- JALLEN 10/18/18
November 02, 2018, 11:46 AM
Elk Hunter
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
And yet the worthless goddamed media will report all kinds of stories and rumors “without proof”.

Fuck
The
Media

Their double standard is infuriating. It’s mainly why I have cut off my TV, and quit listening to major media outlets.


I don't even watch Fox anymore! Too much wasted time waiting for some actual news.


Elk

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November 02, 2018, 12:00 PM
lkdr1989
Just think of the media as demoKKKrat activists that call themselves journalists.




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November 02, 2018, 01:30 PM
architect
I remember my dad, over 40 years ago, getting torqued when the TV anchorman said something like, "President Nixon, in his press conference yesterday, claimed that..." His main objection: it's a mealy-mouthed way to call someone a liar.

My point being that media has long used language to convey their biases.
November 02, 2018, 02:43 PM
Il Cattivo
"Without proof", eh? So does this mean that TV talking heads are going to stop asking interviewees that tired old form of BS question: "People are saying X, Y and Z. How do you respond to that?"

Just once, I'd like for someone to respond by insisting that the talking head tell them specifically what people are actually saying X, Y and Z. I'm convinced that talking heads are just making those questions up and hoping that they can plausibly insist that its a valid question.
November 02, 2018, 02:53 PM
gearhounds
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
"Without proof", eh? So does this mean that TV talking heads are going to stop asking interviewees that tired old form of BS question: "People are saying X, Y and Z. How do you respond to that?"

Just once, I'd like for someone to respond by insisting that the talking head tell them specifically what people are actually saying X, Y and Z. I'm convinced that talking heads are just making those questions up and hoping that they can plausibly insist that its a valid question.

That, or simply reply "Shouldn't you be reporting the news instead of trying to make it up?". On live TV would be best...




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November 02, 2018, 02:57 PM
SIGnified
quote:
Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
And yet the worthless goddamed media will report all kinds of stories and rumors “without proof”.

Fuck
The
Media

Their double standard is infuriating. It’s mainly why I have cut off my TV, and quit listening to major media outlets.


I don't even watch Fox anymore! Too much wasted time waiting for some actual news.


Agreed; Fox News is no better. All they are is eyeball glue through hyperbolic tantrums so they can expose you to their advertisers, and collect their revenue.

#Stop taking the bait.





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November 03, 2018, 11:18 AM
bendable
click bait alert !





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