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...recently tried Chewy's American Journey which is a very good food for the price.
Jeff, what do you know about this Chewy house brand? I could not determine specifically who makes it for them (an issue for me), but they did confirm via a phone call to customer service that Diamond is not involved in it. The different formulations get lots of positive reviews on their site, and the price is very good, but I'm not willing to commit to it based on those two attributes alone.


I'm not familiar at all. Sorry about that. Did you check Dogfoodadvisor.com?

https://www.dogfoodadvisor.com/?s=+American+Journey

Can't beat a 5 star rating, looks good!
Just bothers me that I can't determine who makes the darn stuff for them. And Chewy's customer service is tight lipped about it when asked which I also don't get.

By the way, you didn't comment on the Wellness Simple food I'm feeding now. How do you think it rates?


It's a good food but we think it is a bit high priced for what it is. No worries feeding it though.

Edited to add: Like you, I'd insist on knowing who makes the food.


Jeff,

Are you talking about the same thing? American Journey is $1.66/pound and can be had cheaper than that if you use autoship.

In comparison Fromm Four Star Grain Free is $3.02/pound.

American Journey is a super premium grain free food at an outstanding price. Why do you feel it is high priced for what it is?

Interested to hear your thoughts.


I think he was talking about the Wellness brand someone asked him about.

I'm surprised Jeff hasn't brought up how good Science Diet is yet. Wink
 
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What do you think about Wellness brand for small breeds?

I've been feeding it to my Pug for years.


Wellness RawRev with their shredded medley is what we have been feeding our little girls for years also. They love it.


I will make a bet....bet those beautiful Boston girls....Snore!


My Pug sure does.....As a matter of fact he's on my lap snoring as I type this Smile


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What do you think about Wellness brand for small breeds?

I've been feeding it to my Pug for years.


Wellness RawRev with their shredded medley is what we have been feeding our little girls for years also. They love it.


I will make a bet....bet those beautiful Boston girls....Snore!


My Pug sure does.....As a matter of fact he's on my lap snoring as I type this Smile


Both of them snore like a grown man. My sister came to visit us in Virginia before we starting packing up for the move to Missouri. She slept on the sofa bed downstairs one night. The next morning she said she could hear me snoring downstairs from our bedroom upstairs. It wasn't me, it was one of the Bostons. Smile



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A recent development that may interest those that feed Taste of the Wild:

http://truthaboutpetfood.com/?...e+wild&submit=Search
 
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A recent development that may interest those that feed Taste of the Wild:

http://truthaboutpetfood.com/?...e+wild&submit=Search


Its an lawsuit regarding labeling, and as typical it targets the largest manufacturer, ie the deepest pockets.

Just curious, as I've never looked, do all the other brands list out the ingredients (metals) the % that the suit takes against TOW and Diamond. This could be a precursor to more suits against dog food manufacturing companies.

I don't use TOW, nor championing Diamond, however anyone can sue anyone for anything, unless I missed it the report is simply a retort of the suit filing assertions.

I'd bet the suit was filed as an extortion suit with threats of class action by someone hoping for millions in hush money and Diamond didn't bite.
 
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https://www.wptv.com/news/nati...diet-is-there-a-link

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BALTIMORE — Alison Sheaffer noticed her double doodle , Nyla, had some thinning on her nose and decided to take her to the veterinarian for a check-up. Nyla was prescribed thyroid medication, but after having an adverse reaction to one pill, Sheaffer brought her back to the vet.

"So I took her back, and he did an X-ray of her to make sure she didn't have any obstructions, and then they found the enlarged heart," said Sheaffer, a Fallston, Maryland, resident.

Nyla was diagnosed with advanced dilated cardiomyopathy (DCM), a heart muscle disease that can lead to heart failure.

"She still has a pretty significantly enlarged heart, her muscle function's abnormal, her heart rate's controlled which is a really good sign," said Steven Rosenthal, a board-certified veterinary cardiologist with CVCA Cardiac Care for Pets .

While large breeds are more prone to the disease, Nyla's age, just 5 years old, made Rosenthal question her diet. Sheaffer switched Nyla's diet last June to a grain-free dog food after she was having stomach sensitivities.

"It's very possible that it had a role. Nyla is part golden retriever and we see an increased incidence of the grain-free diet associated dilated cardiomyopathy in the golden retriever, but we've seen it in all breeds of dogs, small and large alike," Rosenthal said.

An uptick in cases, particularly in atypical breeds, led CVCA Cardiac Care for Pets to contact the FDA.

The FDA announced it was looking into the potential connection between certain diets and DCM in July 2018. So far, they've received 300 reports of DCM. And of the nearly 200 DCM reports to the FDA in which dogs only ate one kind of diet, 90 percent of those foods were labeled grain-free.


In February, the agency provided an update on the investigation, saying they've received additional DCM reports, but they have not identified specific recommendations about diet changes for dogs who are not displaying DCM symptoms. Instead, they are encouraging pet owners to consult directly with their veterinarians for their animal’s dietary advice.

Other studies have also investigated the link between BEG, an acronym for boutique, exotic and grain-free diets, and DCM.

In one study , researchers found that of the 24 golden retrievers who were eating BEG diets at the time DCM was diagnosed, all but one of the dogs showed substantial echocardiogaphic improvement after a diet change and the addition of supplemental taurine to their diet.

Still, there are questions as to what exactly these diets include or leave out that could lead to illness.


"There have been many theories including these diets may have a deficiency in an amino acid called taurine," Rosenthal said. "Also, most of these diets are very high in legume content: lentils, peas, chickpeas and beans. And there's some concern that maybe those legumes might be playing a role in altering the absorption of certain nutrients in the diet or one of the theories is if there's some type of toxin in the legumes that we're unaware of. Again, we're trying to figure that out with the FDA. At this point in time, we don't know that answer."

The good news is Rosenthal is starting to see less of these cases from a few a month to one every several months. He thinks it may be due to more awareness.

The bad news is when a dog is diagnosed it's usually in the late stages of the disease.



DCM symptoms

Rosenthal recommends bringing in your pet for evaluation if they show the following symptoms:

•Lethargic
•Less tolerance to activity
•Coughing or breathing problems
•Fainting

Nyla's diagnosis has not only been emotionally taxing but also costly. In two weeks, Sheaffer said she spent $3,000 on different tests and pills, which is why she wants other pet owners to investigate the ingredients, nutritional content and testing standards of the dog food company they choose.

"You know, this is my dog and I love my dog like I love my kids," Sheaffer said. "So, I'm going to go with she's going to be OK and hope for the best."

When Nyla was initially diagnosed, Sheaffer was told she may only have a year. However, with the change in diet and medications (five pills a day plus supplements), the Sheaffer family is hopeful Nyla's health will improve.

Sheaffer recommends anyone with questions about taurine-deficient diets, visit TaurineDCM.org .

Researching dog food companies

Rosenthal also recommends feeding your pet a food that's formulated to meet Association of American Feed Control Officials standards.


"At this point, we recommend using a diet that goes through aggressive feed testing, so there's certain companies that take their diets and then feed it to dogs in colonies at these nutrition sites that they make sure the diets are nutritionally adequate," Rosenthal said.

The World Small Animal Veterinary Association has created a list of questions for pet owners to ask food manufacturers. See their recommendations on selecting pet foods here. " ( https://www.wsava.org/sites/de...ng%20Pet%20Foods.pdf )


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I didn't read the entire thread but our dogs have always eaten what we eat mixed in with their dog food and sometimes not even dog food just table scraps. Only thing is no bones. They all have lived long lives and died naturally.

My current old girl is 16 and is still getting around fairly well. She's a little slow and she ain't going to be chasing down any rabbits or cats but she's still mobile can see hear and smell and knows when she needs to go out to do business.
her dog food has been Science Diet but at least 50% of her diet has been our food. Anyhow I got into a conversation with out vet about dog foods some years back.

He asked what we do now and I told him mostly table scraps mixed with dog food and often enough no dog food. He kind of chuckled and said "Same as my dogs keep doing what you're doing."

He's a old horse doctor and services all the local farmers and animals of every kind. If he's in the neighborhood he stops by the house for a hello and checks on the dog and if his timing is right he gets some BBQ!


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I feed 3 different high-quality foods daily (fish & peas+potato/turkey & oats/lamb & veggies). The main reasons are, that increases nutritional variety and means if one food is recalled or discontinued, my dog doesn't have to switch to a completely new food quickly. Also, if there's some undesirable ingredient/contaminant, he's getting less of it than if he were eating only one food.
 
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A recent development that may interest those that feed Acana or Orijen:

Champion Pet Foods sued

On another note, we just adopted an 8 month old retreiver/GSD mix and I'm trying makes sense of the dog food. I've read the entire thread and reviewed the links. I wish I could say I found the right dog food, but it's as clear as mud.

One website, dogfoodadvisor.com, offers "reviews and ratings" based what's on the label. Imagine car "reviews" based on reading the technical specifications, but no actual hands on time with the actual car. Would that be a good resource?
 
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I've been feeding my labs Purina One for well over 20 years & they've been fine.

I'm not about to buy any damn gourmet dog food when the dogs eat out of the compost pile & consider horse turds on the road to be dog treats.


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If you feed Royal Canin, check the ingredients. Without announcing it they added by-products to most of their formulas.

We just switched to a special vet formula Royal Canin for our cat. It is supposed to help prevent bladder infections. I will have to check the ingredients this evening.

It's a shame to see the better quality foods sell out. I remember the advent of Hill's Science and Eukanuba, and how good they were in the 1980s before they sold out.

Ironically now, we feed our Labs Purina Pro Plan. It is what our male's breeder used and, no matter how gently and slowly we made the transition to other "better" brands, the male's digestive system couldn't handle it. But in comparing the ingredients, Pro Plan Select stacked up well against the other top quality brands at the time.


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Thanks for the heads up Jeff. I know, this is a dog thread but I use the Blue Buffalo grain free for the Fuzz and he really enjoys this. I'll definitely be keeping an eye open on the future of BB foods and possible changes.


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Hi Jeff, any thoughts on Victor Select Senior Healthy Weight Dry Dog Food? Thanks for your time.


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If you feed Royal Canin, check the ingredients. Without announcing it they added by-products to most of their formulas.

We just switched to a special vet formula Royal Canin for our cat. It is supposed to help prevent bladder infections. I will have to check the ingredients this evening.


Less than 10 years ago my vet suggested a RC dry food in her office for some relatively minor issue with my dog - might have been weight loss. I like my vet and trust her for the most part, but the first ingredient on the RC food was corn, and the rest of the ingredients didn't impress, either. It wasn't hard to find a better food elsewhere.
 
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We've been using the Costco Nature Domain grain free dog food. hound seems to like it, we can switch up from Salmon to beef, Chicken and Lamb.

My google-fu shows that Nature Domain is make by Diamond Pet Foods who make Taste of the Wild dog food.
Just remember that Diamond has had more pet food recalls than I believe any other manufacturer has.


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Jeff, what of Merrick? My understanding is they were bought by Purina some time ago.


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I've been using Taste of the Wild chicken kibble, grain free, for some years. I supplement it with home cooked ground turkey (3lb), 3 bags frozen of mixed vegs (all types). It makes 6 qt.size containers that I freeze. Each meal my dogs get a capsule of fish oil which significantly reduced the itching that one dog had and over time improved their coats.
 
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Less than 10 years ago my vet suggested a RC dry food in her office for some relatively minor issue with my dog - might have been weight loss. I like my vet and trust her for the most part, but the first ingredient on the RC food was corn, and the rest of the ingredients didn't impress, either. It wasn't hard to find a better food elsewhere.

I checked the ingredients tonight. The first ingredients are chicken by-products. My problem here is that the cat has had an issue with bladder infections and this food is supposed to prevent that. I need to research and see if there is something better I can get for her that will also help prevent bladder infections.



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^^^ I don't know if cranberry is OK and helpful for cats, but it's a known helpful supplement for humans and dogs with UTI issues. I fed my previous dog cranberry extract daily and her UTIs stopped.
 
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