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I believe there was a report this weekend saying over 90% of the crew has been tested with around 600 positive results so far. | |||
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I believe it's 90% tested, but not for antibodies, for the virus. One means they have it, the other means they already had it or have developed immunities. __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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And the show goes on! Go to the link to read the story...... NAVY MAY REINSTATE Fired Captain of the Roosevelt...…. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...GB7h?ocid=spartanntp | |||
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The French got the same problem, though so far without losing any captains and secretaries over it (but the handling is being investigated).
https://news.usni.org/2020/04/...ositive-for-covid-19 | |||
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Yeah, the Secretary jumped the gun against advice from the Admiral investigating and made things worse. It may have been the same result but not made it into such a cluster. | |||
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RIP AOC(AW) Thacker.. we have the watch brother Chief Thacker -------------------------------------------- Floridian by birth, Seminole by the grace of God | |||
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https://www.france24.com/en/20...ositive-for-covid-19 | |||
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I made this post on page 2 of this thread. She has tested positive for the Virus and is hospitalized in Guam. She’s young and otherwise healthy, but still...
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The more this onion gets peeled back, the more the former SECNAV and Capt Crozier's bosses are looking like the same protectionist bureaucratic clowns the service has encouraged. Who leaked the letter out to the press...PACFLT? Like the collisions with the Fitz/McCain, more stars need to fall. https://blog.usni.org/posts/20...re-faith-in-the-navy
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Sure seem to be lot of Captains on one ship  | |||
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Prayers for your friends daughter and to all our servicemen and servicewomen. My wife’s cousins son is still not infected but is on shore in Guam on quarantine in a hotel. Also curious that the navy admits now the captains memo was very limited in who it was addressed to yet still leaked. Somebody’s head needs to roll for that leak
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In light of the last few posts....they did him wrong in so many ways. Should have never been fired. Modly was just a piece of shit who insisted on having his 15 minutes of fame. What an asshole. | |||
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| Unflappable Enginerd |
Sooo... Who leaked the email? Based on the distribution list, you get to pick Capt Crozier, or someone on that list, no? __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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Modly made it sound like he included friends, family and possibly press reporters as well in the email. | |||
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It would be EASY to find who leaked the email as the ship was at sea and all communications of everyone on the entire ship went through the Navy's satellite internet system. | |||
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Wouldn't even be that hard. My guess is some of the CAPT staff pogues forwarded it to their rest of the staff and it trickled out from there. And I bet they Navy already knows 'who'. | |||
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He simply played into the Admiral's playbook of blaming others, and protecting their stars, he's a pawn in this game. Modly could've stayed quiet and listened to his CNO, who supported the removal while moving forward with the inquiry on command climate; instead Modly pilled-on with his bad-mouthing speech to the ship's crew. The more this gets exposed, the more the Navy looks bad, and it's simply a continuation of not taking responsibility or, providing leadership. | |||
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looks like he's been recommended for reinstatement https://www.tulsaworld.com/new...c8-122c8a9e0df8.html The head of the Navy recommended to Defense Secretary Mark Esper that Capt. Brett Crozier be restored to command of the USS Theodore Roosevelt aircraft carrier on Friday, according to an administration official. Esper was not prepared to immediately accept the recommendation from Admiral Michael Gilday, the Chief of Naval Operations after being briefed on the investigation into the circumstances around Crozier's removal, telling top Navy officials he wanted more time to review their recommendations, a defense official told CNN. Earlier on Friday Pentagon spokesman Jonathan Hoffman told reporters Esper was "going into this with an open mind" ahead of the meeting with Gilday and that "he is generally inclined to support Navy leadership and their decisions." The New York Times was first to report the decision. Crozier was fired earlier this month for what the then-acting Navy Secretary Thomas Modly said was poor judgment by too widely disseminating a warning about the spread of virus aboard his vessel, a warning that eventually made its way into the press. Modly resigned days later over his handling of the incident, actions which included a $240,000 trip to Guam where he slammed Crozier and admonished sailors for giving Crozier a rousing send off in public remarks to the crew. While Modly publicly accused Crozier of sending his letter of warning to 20 to 30 people, the email to which the letter was attached shows that Crozier sent it to 10 people including his direct superior, according to a copy of the email obtained by The Washington Post. "I believe if there is ever a time to ask for help it is now regardless of the impact on my career," Crozier wrote in his email, the contents of which a US official directly familiar with the message confirmed to CNN. The email was addressed to Rear Adm. Stuart Baker, the commander of the carrier strike group of which the USS Theodore Roosevelt is a component and Crozier's immediate commanding officer. The email was also addressed to Adm. John Aquilino, the commander of US Pacific Fleet; and Vice Adm. DeWolfe Miller, another senior officer in the Pacific responsible for overseeing Naval Air Forces. The message was also copied to seven Navy captains, all of whom were either serving aboard the aircraft carrier or working as aides to the admirals addressed in the email. Following his ouster Crozier was initially reassigned to the headquarters of the Naval Air Forces Pacific command in San Diego but has remained in Guam where he is completing a mandatory quarantine period. After he was fired Crozier was replaced as commanding officer of the aircraft carrier by the ship's former captain, Rear Admiral select Carlos Sardiello. Cases on ship have skyrocketed The number of coronavirus cases aboard the Roosevelt have skyrocketed in recent days, with 856 sailors testing positive as of Friday, and four sailors have been hospitalized in Guam where they are being treated for coronavirus symptoms. One sailor from the aircraft carrier has died due to contracting the virus. The Navy has evacuated more than 4,200 sailors from the ship, representing more than 85% of the Roosevelt's crew, and moved them into quarantine or isolation on Guam, an evacuation that was urgently called for by Crozier in his letter. While President Donald Trump initially criticized Crozier for writing his letter of warning, he later expressed sympathy for the captain following his ouster, citing his accomplished record as a helicopter and F/A-18 jet pilot. "I'm going to get involved and see what is going on there because I don't want to destroy somebody for having a bad day," Trump said. Asked last week about the investigation last week, Esper did not rule out reinstating Crozier and the Navy has repeatedly said nothing is off the table and that no final decisions have been made with regard to the investigation. The Navy's top admiral told reporters earlier this month that he is "taking no options off the table" as he reviewed the investigation and that he was under no pressure from Pentagon or administration officials to drive toward a particular outcome. "I am taking no options off the table as I review that investigation I think that that's my responsibility to approach it in a way with due diligence to make sure it's completely fair and unbiased as I can possibly make it," Gilday told a small group of reporters on a conference call. Gilday also said that he has not spoken to Crozier and that he is under no pressure in terms of the investigation. "I'm under no pressure from anybody in terms of my pace or in terms of any kind of influence, nobody has talked to me about that investigation -- you're the first people that I'm talking to about the investigation outside of my office," Gilday said. | |||
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| Do No Harm, Do Know Harm |
I think I'd accept, then give them the middle finger and retire. Dude's put in his work. Why should he continue working for people who don't care? Knowing what one is talking about is widely admired but not strictly required here. Although sometimes distracting, there is often a certain entertainment value to this easy standard. -JALLEN "All I need is a WAR ON DRUGS reference and I got myself a police thread BINGO." -jljones | |||
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Or anyone else on staff to those officers? Elk There has never been an occasion where a people gave up their weapons in the interest of peace that didn't end in their massacre. (Louis L'Amour) "To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical. " -Thomas Jefferson "America is great because she is good. If America ceases to be good, America will cease to be great." Alexis de Tocqueville FBHO!!! The Idaho Elk Hunter | |||
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