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Two US students get life sentences in Italy

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May 06, 2021, 01:43 PM
tacfoley
Two US students get life sentences in Italy
after being found guilty of murdering an unarmed police officer in 2019.

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/2-ca...2kkofezgqbsvhuiqb271

Their Italian vacation is going to last longer than they ever imagined.
May 06, 2021, 01:51 PM
229DAK
quote:
Two US students get life sentences in Italy

The two were into drugs. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


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May 06, 2021, 02:05 PM
Balzé Halzé
Yeah, they're screwed. They were screwed from the very start of this thing. Guilty or innocent, I'd hate to be subjected to the Italian justice system.

Of course, after the travesty that recently occurred in our American Judicial system, I feel a bit hypocritical saying that.


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May 06, 2021, 02:06 PM
nhtagmember
I trust the Italians to get it it right far more easily than I do the DOJ (Democrats Obstructing Justice)
May 06, 2021, 02:11 PM
c1steve
I also agree that the Italian justice system is pretty good, unless dealing with the corrupted upper levels of government.

Those two went to high school in a town of extremely privileged persons, young and adult. I used to live there, it has sort of a mini Hollywood mindset. They got their taste of the real world, you can almost blame their parents for what has happened.

Same place where Max Wade did some crazy Hollywood style crimes, as a teenager.
Stole a Lamborghini, attempted murder of another kid who was dating the girl he wanted, started on a plan to hijack a helicopter as part of a jewel heist, and more.

https://www.sfgate.com/crime/a...ar-theft-4941073.php


-c1steve
May 06, 2021, 02:16 PM
Jim Shugart
Maybe they'll get some good al dente pasta instead of meatloaf. (Just tryin' to be positive. Smile)



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May 06, 2021, 02:42 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
Maybe they'll get some good al dente pasta instead of meatloaf. (Just tryin' to be positive

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good idea. You could be their life coach.
May 06, 2021, 02:51 PM
spunk639
Wanted to buy cocaine.

Participants in an illegal drug transaction.

Stabbed an unarmed Police Officer to death.

Life sentence.

Got off to easy.
May 06, 2021, 02:55 PM
jhe888
Don't murder people. Especially cops.

Although I didn't think Europeans were usually life sentence kind of people. Maybe Italians are more hard-nosed.




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May 06, 2021, 03:01 PM
Aglifter
They were pretty much fighting for their civilization during the Cold War. Being a lawyer at the time required balls
May 06, 2021, 03:17 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
Don't murder people. Especially cops.

Although I didn't think Europeans were usually life sentence kind of people. Maybe Italians are more hard-nosed.


Italy convicted seven scientists for manslaughter for failing to warn citizens of an earthquake for chrissakes. Yeah, hard-nosed as you say.

Pretty good justice system, sure. After following a bit of the Amanda Knox trial, I'd never come to the opinion that Italy's justice system is "pretty good."


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May 06, 2021, 03:19 PM
Sig2340
I guess they passed murder 101 but failed life 101.





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May 06, 2021, 05:04 PM
corsair
quote:
Originally posted by c1steve:
I also agree that the Italian justice system is pretty good, unless dealing with the corrupted upper levels of government.

Those two went to high school in a town of extremely privileged persons, young and adult. I used to live there, it has sort of a mini Hollywood mindset. They got their taste of the real world, you can almost blame their parents for what has happened.

Marin County, especially the whole of southern Marin county and all its 'towns' is the West Coast slice of the worst of New England college towns. Entire communities occupied by smug, self-righteous, arrogant, self-important, NIMBY assholes. Their spawn, whether they attend Tam High, Redwood, Drake, Marin Country Day...doesn't matter, all privileged, wannabe adults, with lots of financial and familial cover to do stupid shit. The most homogeneous region in the entire Bay Area (actually Northern CA really) but, also the loudest voices when it comes to demanding 'diversity' and 'equity' Roll Eyes

Here's how its playing in the local rag
Marin classmates found guilty in murder of Italian police officer, given life sentences
May 06, 2021, 05:09 PM
kkina
That police officer was stabbed 11 times. Over $100 of cocaine. The only reason they didn't receive the death penalty is that it's outlawed in Italy.



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May 06, 2021, 05:18 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
Don't murder people. Especially cops.

Although I didn't think Europeans were usually life sentence kind of people. Maybe Italians are more hard-nosed.


Italy convicted seven scientists for manslaughter for failing to warn citizens of an earthquake for chrissakes. Yeah, hard-nosed as you say.

Pretty good justice system, sure. After following a bit of the Amanda Knox trial, I'd never come to the opinion that Italy's justice system is "pretty good."


I agree they seemed to screw up the Amanda Knox case pretty badly. I can't say why or what lay behind that.

Charging scientists with failing to predict earthquakes is stupid, and seemed largely political to me. Someone had to be a scapegoat.

It is a different way of doing criminal prosecution as compared to us. I don't know if it is generally worse or generally better. Maybe the same, but different?




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May 06, 2021, 05:20 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by corsair:

Marin County, especially the whole of southern Marin county and all its 'towns' is the West Coast slice of the worst of New England college towns. Entire communities occupied by smug, self-righteous, arrogant, self-important, NIMBY assholes. Their spawn, whether they attend Tam High, Redwood, Drake, Marin Country Day...doesn't matter, all privileged, wannabe adults, with lots of financial and familial cover to do stupid shit. The most homogeneous region in the entire Bay Area (actually Northern CA really) but, also the loudest voices when it comes to demanding 'diversity' and 'equity' Roll Eyes



Those sorts of places often want liberal feel-good policies, but not in their little enclaves.




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May 06, 2021, 05:54 PM
.38supersig
Guessing that the two stupidents are about to learn a new subject matter.



May 06, 2021, 06:17 PM
parabellum

May 06, 2021, 06:54 PM
darthfuster
He stabbed the officer 11 times. He's an animal. I hope their time is hard and for their entire lives.



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May 06, 2021, 09:12 PM
Rick Lee
I wish this had happened in a non-EU country. The prison experience would be much more fitting.