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Apple AirPort Extreme Question About Upgrading

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April 11, 2017, 05:51 PM
PASig
Apple AirPort Extreme Question About Upgrading
I have an Apple AirPort Extreme , the last model of the flat square ones before they went to the more skinny tall one. I've been given a newer model that was used for maybe a year in my stepmothers daycare until they recently upgraded to a Comcast Xfinity gateway.

My question is, is it worth going through the trouble of setting up the newer one and getting rid of the older one? It works great and is absolutely rock solid reliable with a good strong signal throughout the house. I don't want to fix what ain't broken!

From what I can research, the ONLY difference between mine and the newer model I was given (besides the form factor) is mine has 5 antennas and the newer one has 6.

Mine:
Model A1408



One I was given:
Model A1521




April 11, 2017, 05:56 PM
smschulz
No, why change?
If you are getting good performance then keep on truckin.
There are a plethora of factors that dictate a good wifi environment and one more measly antenna ain't one of them.
April 11, 2017, 06:09 PM
MikeNH
What kind of speed are you getting from your ISP? The newer one will likely support the 802.11ac standard whereas yours is likely only doing 802.11n.
April 11, 2017, 06:11 PM
PASig
quote:
Originally posted by MikeNH:
What kind of speed are you getting from your ISP? The newer one will likely support the 802.11ac standard whereas yours is likely only doing 802.11n.


I'm getting 80-100 Mbps right now over Wifi.


April 11, 2017, 06:11 PM
dry-fly
The new one made quite an improvement for me, I'd do it.


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April 11, 2017, 06:29 PM
mark_a
Do you have any areas that have less than optimal coverage? The airports handle range extendability pretty well.
April 11, 2017, 06:30 PM
MikeNH
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeNH:
What kind of speed are you getting from your ISP? The newer one will likely support the 802.11ac standard whereas yours is likely only doing 802.11n.


I'm getting 80-100 Mbps right now over Wifi.



You're at the upper end of what 801.11n will support. See if you can get the model number of the newer one. I'm pretty sure all the tower ones will do AC but I'm not 100% on that.
April 11, 2017, 06:42 PM
Rinehart
PASig,

Funny you should mention this. I've been debating the same thing-

So I just did a series of speed tests on my A1408 to use as comparison. (Our provider is Verizon, and we have what was the next-to-lowest package).

WIRED Speed: (Alienware Aurora R4 ethernet direct to router)

83.74 MBPS Download
89.41 MBPS Upload

WIRELESS Speed: (2 Band, four year old Apple Airport Extreme “N” Router. Also have repeater) Don’t have AC Protocol.

Wireless tested using Macbook Pro 2.4 GHZ i5 laptop with 16 GB Ram

2.4 GHZ Band

31.35 MBPS Download
54.35 MBPS Upload

5 GHZ Band

45.59 MBPS Download
63.56 MBPS Upload

(*Keep in mind that the only reliable test as far as your ISP is concerned is the wired speed. Wired is their environment, wireless is considered yours).

I did these tests using Verizon’s own speedtest page. You can do any one you want as long as you consistently do all testing sequences using the same test.

One difference between the old and new AirPort is that the new model has AC Protocol.

I'm not going to change yet-
April 11, 2017, 06:53 PM
mrbill345
As everyone else has said, the newer model has the ac speed, but it will depend on if your computers/tablets/phones are ac compatible.



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April 11, 2017, 07:01 PM
Orguss
The new one supports faster wifi bandwidth, plus the transmission antenna is configured differently so it throws the signal in a more widespread fashion.



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April 11, 2017, 08:56 PM
cparktd
Looks like ones like your old ones go for about 30 or 40 bucks, the newer one goes for about twice that. Should mean something LOL!
The old one does not do a/c the new one does.

Man, too bad it wasn't a time machine...

Just wondering, I have a time machine 3TB. But can you make an airport Extreme into one with an external HD?

Love my Time machine. Our Phones get backed up to my laptop, and my laptop gets backed up to the time machine every hour.

Hay you could always Karma one!



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April 11, 2017, 09:55 PM
rh
quote:
Originally posted by cparktd:
But can you make an airport Extreme into one with an external HD?


Yes, but even the newer Airport Extreme just has a USB 2.0 port for an external drive, so the drive would be slower than the 802.11-ac.
April 12, 2017, 07:14 AM
snwghst
I set my old one up as an extender of the wifi through out the house

new in office
old in living room


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April 12, 2017, 07:59 AM
rh
quote:
Originally posted by snwghst:
I set my old one up as an extender of the wifi through out the house


That's what I would do. If not necessary, then I would sell or Karma one of the routers.
April 12, 2017, 08:09 AM
jbcummings
Even though I use Apple, could one of them be used as a repeater/extender in an area where you might not be getting quite the signal you want?


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April 12, 2017, 08:28 AM
rh
That is what my previous post implied. I'm sort of working now, but I can get back later with details later if you don't know how to extend Airports.

I use the latest (last?) Airport Extreme as my primary WiFi router in conjunction with an older extended Time Capsule for backups.

Of course it would be easier on me if another forum member explained how to do so, especially since I use the deprecated but subjectively superior Airport 5.6.1 Utility.
April 12, 2017, 08:54 AM
henryaz
 
The "use both" option is what I would implement, if I could cable both with ethernet. Extending the network wirelessly is not worth it, but if you can get cable to each AEBS back to your main network switch (or even from the first AEBS to the other), then a "roaming" network will give you much improved coverage throughout the house.
 
Another thing I find helpful is to mount the AEBS high on the wall. Check out the H-Squared Apple wireless mounts. They let you mount the older style flat against the wall, which projects well, and the newer one attached to the wall, but standing up, which also gives it best range.
 
April 12, 2017, 09:52 AM
sigcrazy7
Apple is discontinuing this business. Might as well set up the newer one since this is the last Apple router you'll get.



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April 12, 2017, 11:03 AM
cparktd
quote:
Originally posted by rh:
quote:
Originally posted by cparktd:
But can you make an airport Extreme into one with an external HD?


Yes, but even the newer Airport Extreme just has a USB 2.0 port for an external drive, so the drive would be slower than the 802.11-ac.


Thought that might work. Speed not really a problem for time machine backups I wouldn't think. Good option for the OP if he doesn't currently have a backup routine.



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April 12, 2017, 11:13 AM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by rh:

Yes, but even the newer Airport Extreme just has a USB 2.0 port for an external drive, so the drive would be slower than the 802.11-ac.


That is a gross over-simplification.
In practice you would have to have a LOT of factors in place for that to happen.
Not a realistic assumption with the everyday consumer goods being discussed.