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Ninja Creami

We had the had crank as a kid, and the motorized one several years, well maybe decade or two ago.

Lot of work for ice cream, guess going to the store and grabbing a qt or two has become too easy.

Ensigmatic, Where are the Keto Recipes you liked, would be interested in the high protein, low sugar ones, might have to look into the machine for those.

OTOH, we have a ninja blender, why couldn't you make in it one of those, then pour into a container and pop into the freezer or fridge depending on the freeze level you desire.

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Ensigmatic, Where are the Keto Recipes you liked, would be interested in the high protein, low sugar ones, might have to look into the machine for those.

One of the fitness coaches I follow on X posts them: Dean Turner @DeanTraining

@ensigmatic. That fellow has a lot of unique opinions on developing muscle/fitness - admittedly, I just skimmed his twitter feed a bit.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
@ensigmatic. That fellow has a lot of unique opinions on developing muscle/fitness - admittedly, I just skimmed his twitter feed a bit.

Unique? Which of his beliefs do you find unique? I follow maybe a dozen or so fitness types on X. His takes don't seem to be all that different from any of others—if at all, really.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Unique? Which of his beliefs do you find unique?
I follow maybe a dozen or so fitness types on X. His takes don't seem to be all that different from any of others—if at all, really.

I believe he meant that as a compliment .

His rejection of squat, deadlift etc, and promoting machine use. Compound free weight lifts are pretty much the foundation of training.

It was just a tweet. If he pushes irregular objects/dumbbells/kettle bells/war clubs instead of barbells, that would be logical, but his build doesn’t look like that of someone who does a lot of compound or irregular lifts.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
His rejection of squat, deadlift etc, and promoting machine use. Compound free weight lifts are pretty much the foundation of training.

Ah.

I'm guessing you're of the Mark Rippetoe/Starting Strength school of weight training thinking?

Dean's views aren't unique at all. The weight training universe falls roughly into the "If you don't do all the five major compound lifts you're not doing it right" school, the "machines are all you need" school, and those who feel there are roles for both.

I would say the majority of those I follow fall into the last category, as do my own beliefs. Hell, I even use a functional trainer

Nearly a year ago I dropped DLs for TBDLs because I'd stalled on DLs. I didn't feel I was able to progress and maintain "proper form." Same thing with squats about six months ago. Thus the leg sled.

But Christmas will bring me a shiny new REP SSB and I've since discovered I was being perhaps a bit too anal about DL form. So after Christmas DLs and squats will be back.

Thing is: While the big five lifts are important, they're not absolutely necessary. You can get the same, or nearly the same results subbing-in other work. E.g.: Between the TBDLs and RDLs I was getting everything DLs would get me.


[1] Deadlift [2], squat [3], bench press, overhead press, bicep curl.

[2] Real deads, none of this sissy trap bar stuff

[3] With the bar on your back, otherwise stay home

Umm…. I’m of the “ignore everyone who didn’t/isn’t competitive” school/if they aren’t competing, calisthenics are probably sufficient.. (Long, long ago I was a powerlifter, then a strongman competitor.)

Unless people are competing, I am a fan of trap bar dead’s instead of barbell dead’s or squats.

They’re just safer, and much easier to teach.

Though I have thought about using an O bar for squats, mainly for fun, but lifting on a whippy bar might build stabilizers/ne a way to expose new lifters to whip, before they lift heavy enough to feel a power bar get whippy.

OK, so out of curiosity, why bench and bicep curls?

Bench is incredibly challenging as a technique, but OHP develops a more integrated shoulder girdle.

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... if they aren’t competing, calisthenics are probably sufficient..

I guess that depends upon one's goals. Mine are primarily to reduce body fat, become stronger, and maintain improved bone density. So I lift.

Goal is to die as young as possible, as late as possible

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
Unless people are competing, I am a fan of trap bar dead’s instead of barbell dead’s or squats.

They’re just safer, and much easier to teach.

When I add DLs back I'll probably alternate between the two.

I like doing DLs. There's something viscerally satisfying about dragging a heavy (FSVO "heavy") bar off the floor like that

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OK, so out of curiosity, why bench and bicep curls?

Chest and biceps?

Biceps to be able to lift heavy things, but a quaternary reason for all this is to get shredded/ripped sheerly for aesthetic reasons.

Having a six pack is on my bucket list

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Bench is incredibly challenging as a technique, but OHP develops a more integrated shoulder girdle.

Bench is definitely challenging. It's important to maintain good form.

And for the love of God: Use properly set up safety spotter arms, pins, or straps. According to Rip: More people are injured or killed doing benches than any other compound exercise. (Probably because people underestimate the challenge/danger.)

Anyway: I do 'em both, as well as incline bench.

Man. This whole second page is seriously lacking any ice cream talk.

Well, let me try to bring it back (actually, I don't care, I just enjoy the forum).

My wife just bought one of these Ninjas, and she thinks she can make various healthy (healthier?) ice cream.

Since it's the Christmas season, we've been busy and haven't tried it yet. Loud doesn't bother me, since I'm so hard of hearing anyway.

I would say, however, that we've found Ninja products to be generally very good and hae purchased several.

Bob

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The reason I asked, is even Louie Simmons’ men mostly concentrated on OHP, and they were the best bench pressers in the world, back in the long long ago. (Might still be, but I heard Simmons’ passed/I’ve been out of powerlifting for a long time.)

Bench is really tough on the bicep tendon, and standing OHP should do everything most people want for upper body development/unless there are injuries and imbalances to correct.

(But there is an aesthetic for a heavy pec look, where the pecs are over-developed relative to the shoulder girdle).

Similarly, pulls/pull ups/dips should pretty much do everything the arm needs.

Again, though, we focused on moving the most mass/the fastest possible.

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Originally posted by Paten:
Man. This whole second page is seriously lacking any ice cream talk.

You got that right!!!! For sure!!!

I want to get a home made ice cream maker and recipes and such.

Now we gotta read about sweaty old geezers swinging their junk around the gym. LOL.
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Originally posted by Paten:
Man. This whole second page is seriously lacking any ice cream talk.

It was never really about "ice cream," per se, but about the Ninja Creami

And my purpose wasn't so much to make traditional ice cream as to make high-protein ice cream-ish stuff.

And the reason for that was because I'm on a fitness journey.

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Now we gotta read about sweaty old geezers swinging their junk around the gym. LOL.
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Speaking of sweaty old geezers: This guy's my new inspiration:





70 years old and more jacked than most of today's 20-year-olds.