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Hornady refuses to sell ammo to NY agencies after Cuomo gun initiative
April 30, 2018, 02:39 PM
Pale HorseHornady refuses to sell ammo to NY agencies after Cuomo gun initiative
We need more gun and ammo manufacturers to do this. I know it is a pipe dream but I love the decision to stand up against totalitarian governments like the state of NY. I am going to let them know how happy I am and I suggest you all do the same.
http://www.guns.com/2018/04/30...uomo-gun-initiative/ quote:
Ammunition giant Hornady is cutting off government buyers in New York over an order by New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo to financial services companies regarding gun politics.
Steve Hornady, the company’s president of manufacturing, announced on social media on Friday that the ammo maker will halt sales of their products to Cuomo’s state government or agencies in the Empire State. The move comes after an order directed by Cuomo earlier last month that cautioned banks, insurance companies and lenders against involvement with the National Rifle Association and similar organizations. Slamming the Governor’s move as one of the most “despicable acts ever perpetrated by any state,” Hornady closed the doors to the state.
“While it may not make a difference to New York, Hornady will not knowingly allow our ammunition to be sold to the Government of the State of NY or any NY agencies,” Hornady said. “Their actions are a blatant and disgusting abuse of office and we won’t be associated with a government that acts like that.”
The guidance issued by Cuomo came from the state’s Department of Financial Services on April 19 in the form of official letters to all DFS-regulated insurers and banks in the state. In the missives, Financial Services Superintendent Maria Vullo urged financial institutions to examine their relationships with the NRA and organizations that promote guns to take “prompt actions to manage these risks” when it came to protecting their corporate reputations. Pointing to the public backlash on gun rights groups and firearm companies in the wake of a high-profile mass shootings that have dominated the news cycle, Vullo encouraged those regulated by her agency that “Corporations are demonstrating that business can lead the way and bring about the kind of positive social change needed to minimize the chance that we will witness more of these senseless tragedies.”
In recent weeks, big-name lenders such as Citi and Bank of America have adopted new policies that could see them cut ties with partnering businesses unwilling to adopt new policies for selling firearms or manufacturing some types of semi-automatic guns — which has in turn brought calls for more regulatory oversight of the institutions with respect to government contracts.
Hornady is one of the premier ammunition suppliers to law enforcement in the country. The company recently was awarded a $19 million contract to provide a new generation of 9mm duty rounds to the FBI.
“Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014
April 30, 2018, 02:42 PM
kz1000Good. Fuck NY.
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-Bomber Harris
April 30, 2018, 02:44 PM
Ryanp225They just got my support. Good on them!
April 30, 2018, 02:54 PM
ensigmaticRead this earlier. Hornady definitely won some points with me!
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher April 30, 2018, 02:54 PM
roarindanquote:
Originally posted by kz1000:
Good. Fuck NY.
Pardner...I am from NY...(upstate)...I believe you meant to say ...fuck the government of NY.
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April 30, 2018, 02:56 PM
kz1000quote:
Originally posted by roarindan:
quote:
Originally posted by kz1000:
Good. Fuck NY.
Pardner...I am from NY...(upstate)...I believe you meant to say ...fuck the government of NY.
I was born in NYC and lived in NYC from birth to age 7, then in Westchester until I was 18. I feel your pain & meant the Gubmint...
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"Yidn, shreibt un fershreibt"
"The Nazis entered this war under the rather childish delusion that they were going to bomb everyone else, and nobody was going to bomb them. At Rotterdam, London, Warsaw and half a hundred other places, they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind."
-Bomber Harris
April 30, 2018, 02:56 PM
TMatsJust. Right.
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despite them
April 30, 2018, 03:03 PM
parabellumGood. ATK needs to follow suit
April 30, 2018, 03:17 PM
thundersonThe dream would be they'd have to go direct to tula for ammo.
I have the heart of a lion.......and a lifetime ban from the Toronto Zoo.- Unknown April 30, 2018, 03:31 PM
Cousin VinnieGood for Hornady!! To bad more companies don't follow Hornadys lead.
Screw Cuomo and the rest of the New York democrats. Who do these dictators think they are? Personally, as a national federal government contractor, I won't do any business in New York.....PERIOD! I want nothing to do with all the red tape and onerous restrictions we have to go through to perform our services in New York. That also goes for New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, California, Maryland or any other places run by democrats.
April 30, 2018, 03:37 PM
wreckdiverI am proud that I have invested heavily in Hornady!!
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April 30, 2018, 03:38 PM
GT-40DOCWay to go Hornady!!! I just wish that this would start a "wave" of similar responses by others.
April 30, 2018, 03:53 PM
Pale HorseRemember to call them and write them. Call other ammo manufactures and encourage them to take the same stand.
We should be as aggressive in our contact of companies who support us as we are of those who betray us.
“Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014
April 30, 2018, 04:08 PM
leavemebeTime to buy more Hornady ammo!
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April 30, 2018, 04:14 PM
dusty3030I just emailed and followed up with a phone call showing support.
April 30, 2018, 04:20 PM
Il CattivoI wonder if Cuomo has figured out yet that, with Obama gone, the days of government casually intimidating private companies into desperately trying to foster open-ended social initiatives with no set guidelines are finally over?
Or is he going to be forced to start figuring that out right now?
ETA: Aaannndd a batch of component .310" SSTs is on the way.
April 30, 2018, 04:26 PM
SapperSteelquote:
Originally posted by dusty3030:
I just emailed and followed up with a phone call showing support.
Mind sharing the e-mail address & phone number with those of us who are less skilled in Google-fu?
Thanks,
Sap
April 30, 2018, 04:29 PM
Pale HorseHere is the phone number
1-800-338-3220
“Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014
April 30, 2018, 04:36 PM
SapperSteelquote:
Originally posted by Pale Horse:
Here is the phone number
1-800-338-3220
Thanks. That number is at their website, but an e-mail address is conspicuously absent.
Thanks,
Sap
April 30, 2018, 04:40 PM
dusty3030Click Product Support, then Technical Support then submit your question and you should get the form to fill out and send via their website.
Pale Horse listed the number I called.