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When your wife comes in while you are asleep and wakes you and say's "I think the pump is not working". Is not how you want to start your day, doh.

The weather has been piping hot. She had irrigation on. I have been working on some drip lines lately. I told her how to run them as to keep the pump on vs. cycling the pump. This is not new. Although she might have had one too many on which could of had the pump running outside of it optimal curve. Pumping more water at a lower pressure than was ideal.
This pump system has been working for 23 years without issue. So cannot complain. Felt like it has served us very well and we were on barrowed time. So she really did nothing wrong to cause this.
The well is about 240' and has a 1-1/2hp 12 Gallon per minute pump.
The pressure tank and pressure switch is in the crawl space along with the pump control box which is unhandy as hell. I need to go down there and check the pressure switch. it is possible it could be the source of the problem I suppose. The breaker was not tripped. Any trouble shooting suggestions?
Have a call into the pump guy. Suppose this is going to be a $5-7k job if the pump needs to be replaced, ouch.



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Posts: 21797 | Registered: September 21, 2005Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Ouch, for sure. I had to get a new pump last year.

Yes, it could be a bad or stuck pressure switch or the control panel. I've had to replace several pressure switches and the control panel once.

Test for power going to the pump if you can.

I hope it's something simple.

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Suppose this is going to be a $5-7k job if the pump needs to be replaced, ouch.

Hopefully it won't be that much. I got a new pump put in about 7-8 years ago and it was "only" around $2500. Similar depth.

Good luck.


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A pressure switch is cheap, $20-30, I just replaced one in the well for one of my pastures. Great if it works, not out much if it doesn't.



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To the people that have well water is 100% of the cost up front besides electricity for the pump. Like there’s no type of metering what so ever right?

I was watching a podcast and they were talking to people with wells near data centers who were having problems with their wells going dry. Come to find out the data centers are tapping into the natural aquifers to get there millions of gallons of water for the cooling they need.
 
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To the people that have well water is 100% of the cost up front besides electricity for the pump. Like there’s no type of metering what so ever right?

I was watching a podcast and they were talking to people with wells near data centers who were having problems with their wells going dry. Come to find out the data centers are tapping into the natural aquifers to get there millions of gallons of water for the cooling they need.


Right,

Can't be data centers. They are benign. We have to haven them and they don't do a thing to communities or the environment that they are rushing to build them in like there is no tomorrow with next to no oversight. Roll Eyes



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Ugh, I had to pull mine twice in 10 years.
Lightning hit it and splattered it to pieces the first time.
We pulled up 300' by hand. It sucked.
Last year it stopped and I made a rig to pull it out with an engine hoist and my Ranger.
It was a wheel barrow wheel affixed between sawhorses.

The pump lead wires weren't soldered/fixed together good enough.

A pump is $700 from Home Depot.
$5000 is EXCESSIVE. $2000 including the pump is even high.





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To the people that have well water is 100% of the cost up front besides electricity for the pump. Like there’s no type of metering what so ever right?

I was watching a podcast and they were talking to people with wells near data centers who were having problems with their wells going dry. Come to find out the data centers are tapping into the natural aquifers to get there millions of gallons of water for the cooling they need.


Huh? Data centers use glycol chillers. They're completely self contained.





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Ugh, I had to pull mine twice in 10 years.
Lightning hit it and splattered it to pieces the first time.
We pulled up 300' by hand. It sucked.
Last year it stopped and I made a rig to pull it out with an engine hoist and my Ranger.
It was a wheel barrow wheel affixed between sawhorses.

The pump lead wires weren't soldered/fixed together good enough.

A pump is $700 from Home Depot.
$5000 is EXCESSIVE. $2000 including the pump is even high.


What kind of pipe was yours hung on?
A goulds 1-1/2hp is going to be a minimum of $1500, more like $2k. Which is half of retail. Most pump guys charge list or msrp for the job.



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Feel your pain.
Mine quit in January after just over 21 years.
$2100 all said and done.
Replaced wiring while being installed.
 
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Feel your pain.
Mine quit in January after just over 21 years.
$2100 all said and done.
Replaced wiring while being installed.



How deep and what hp?



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Before you spring for a new pump, pull the old one and have it looked at. It may be repairable for a few hundred.

Grundfos has spares kits available. But hopefully yours is just a stuck relay.
 
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Like SC, my NH house years ago was hit by lightning. Thankfully the pump was okay and only needed to replace the pressure switch.

Hope your fix is an easy one!




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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Ugh, I had to pull mine twice in 10 years.
Lightning hit it and splattered it to pieces the first time.
We pulled up 300' by hand. It sucked.
Last year it stopped and I made a rig to pull it out with an engine hoist and my Ranger.
It was a wheel barrow wheel affixed between sawhorses.

The pump lead wires weren't soldered/fixed together good enough.

A pump is $700 from Home Depot.
$5000 is EXCESSIVE. $2000 including the pump is even high.


What kind of pipe was yours hung on?
A goulds 1-1/2hp is going to be a minimum of $1500, more like $2k. Which is half of retail. Most pump guys charge list or msrp for the job.


Mine is hung on black polyvinyl.
It's a 230V 2 wire pump. Unless you're down 500', a Goulds is overkill.
My Franklin was almost 25 years old when it failed.





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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
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Originally posted by ScreamingCockatoo:
Ugh, I had to pull mine twice in 10 years.
Lightning hit it and splattered it to pieces the first time.
We pulled up 300' by hand. It sucked.
Last year it stopped and I made a rig to pull it out with an engine hoist and my Ranger.
It was a wheel barrow wheel affixed between sawhorses.

The pump lead wires weren't soldered/fixed together good enough.

A pump is $700 from Home Depot.
$5000 is EXCESSIVE. $2000 including the pump is even high.


What kind of pipe was yours hung on?
A goulds 1-1/2hp is going to be a minimum of $1500, more like $2k. Which is half of retail. Most pump guys charge list or msrp for the job.


Mine is hung on black polyvinyl.
It's a 230V 2 wire pump. Unless you're down 500', a Goulds is overkill.
My Franklin was almost 25 years old when it failed.


Ours are hung on Galvanized steel. Franklin in not a pump brand. That is a pump motor manufacturer brand. Goulds is not over kill It is just another pump brand like Myers, Grundfos, Flint and walling and many others. Franklin motors and control boxes were used by almost all the pump manufacturers. Some still do but now many pump manufacturers are building their own motors and control boxes .



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Feel your pain.
Mine quit in January after just over 21 years.
$2100 all said and done.
Replaced wiring while being installed.



How deep and what hp?


200'
1HP
this has been plenty sufficient for vthe past 20 yrs
 
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Huh? We had a Franklin where I grew up.
Pulled a Franklin up here.

https://www.franklinwater.com/...bmersible-well-pump/





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Don’t rule out mechanical failure outside of the pump itself. We are on a well that was about 20 years old when we moved in late 2005. A couple of years later, the pump went out. It sits at about 400 or so feet below the surface in a 680’ bore.

One of the neighbors used to do well work and had a homemade electric tripod/wheelbarrow wheel apparatus that made pulling the pump by its black poly line a breeze. We laid it out in the yard loop by loop and when the pump emerged, we discovered that the power cable had been worn down to the thickness of a mechanical pencil lead before breaking. Apparently, several of the plastic discs that centered the wire in the bore had flopped over allowing the power cable to grind against the sides back and forth under spin torque from turning on and off. About a foot and a half of power cable was trimmed, reconnected, discs re-centered, pump lowered back down, (treated with bleach for surface contamination) and viola- water back on. I do not remember the brand of pump but recall the neighbor telling us it was top of the line. He obviously knew his shit as the pump has accumulated approximately 40 years of continuous reliable use, knock on wood.




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^^^ 40 years!? Damn that's a quality pump!




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