I have a friend who is undergoing treatment for cancer.

His oncologist is recommending that he drink hydrogen water as a part of this process to combat some of the side effects

As a gift, his son-in-law wants to buy a device that adds more hydrogen to the water, but the prices are highly varied and he is seeking some guidance. I told him about the collective knowledge on this board and that I would seek input from you all.

Does anyone have experience with either the individual tumblers or the machines that inject more H2 into water? I am looking for advice on value and reliability.

Thanks, guys.


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I haven't used it, sounds quite interesting... looking forward to hearing from anyone using it as well...

A little research and all the consumer lists say the Aqua Vital is one of the best, and it's also one of the least expensive at $50 on Amazon.


Link Amazon

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Originally posted by HRK:
I haven't used it, sounds quite interesting... looking forward to hearing from anyone using it as well...

Thank you, HRK.


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Originally posted by sgalczyn:
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Thanks, but I am not here to argue with the recommendation of a well-regarded oncologist regarding the efficacy of hydrogen water. I am here to try to get advice on quality and value of the various options.



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If you don’t know, don’t comment.

I don’t know, but I will link an NIH study:

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10816294/

interesting topic,


no idea on the hydro and water for cancer,


however my wife has some issues that have benefitted from water with different alkaline levels,

never thought that was something that mattered

That study had all Indian authors.

That should raise some flags.

Having had first hand experience I would try most anything. If you have never had these side effects you have no idea. I would give it a try if it is not too costly. What side effects are we talking about?

My wife was having some inflammation type issues and we went down the same path looking for something to help. We ended up with the Echo Flask. She has been using for a while now. Not sure that I can say it helped or not but she is still using it. They have everything from the flask, now a tumbler, and even several whole home units which are very pricey.

https://echowater.com/products...-flask?redirect=TRUE

Tabletop "heavy water" machine?

That's what I thought about when I saw the title.

Upon research, there could be some therapeutic usage of heavy water, but I'm sure there are more things to consider.

Cannot help the OP with his question.


But last December watched a church member slowly die from cancer. He passed the day after Christmas, 2 hours after I left his house. His wife was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer and it is quickly destroying her.

My bother battled lung cancer and so far has done well.

Companies and hospitals know how much money a cancer patient is willing to spend to save their lives. Many people prey on that fact but some doctors are truly concerned and looking to alternatives. I hope that your friend finds something that helps him.

Never heard of hydrogen water

My father drank high alkalin spring water while he was going through chemo

I appreciate everyone's input very much. And I am thankful for your well wishes!

Just to clarify, or underscore; my friend has to travel 2 hours to see his oncologist, but this doctor is at a very well-regarded university medical center, and he is prominent in his own right. The fact that a cancer physician, who deals with this everyday, is recommending something in which he has no vested interest, other than his patients' well-being, tells me that there must be something to it. I am sure it is not a magic bullet and probably does not work on everyone, but it is relatively inexpensive to try, and appears to have zero downside. So, as ZSMICHAEL says above, why not try it to see if it will help alleviate the side effects of radiation.

I would do it if I were in my friend's shoes.

Thanks again, everyone!


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I would buy the top rated one on Amazon for $50 and have at it, maybe it actually works or it's a placebo that gets his mind to conquer the things the Doctor says it helps.

Either way, it doesn't sound like it will hurt to try.

MD Anderson has a good write up on it's benefits the link is below.


Link

Many professional athletes use it for endurance training and recovery. I don't have any suggestions, but it's not a completely unsupported method of treatment.

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Originally posted by Aglifter:
That study had all Indian authors.

That should raise some flags.

I noticed that, but they are all doctors in the USA and many(most?) seem to be affiliated with solid medical centers.

Also, if you look at the references they cite at the bottom of the article, the researchers in those citations are Japanese, European(or American), Chinese, Korean, Indian and Eastern European.

I am sure the NIH is not infallible, but I would expect that they do vet articles before they publish them. And I have to ask myself, since there isn't a likelihood of big money to be made by Big Pharma on hydrogen water, what motive would there be for these physicians to spend a lot of time and research on this subject? I guess there is the pressure, or prestige, of having research published, but if the subject is snake oil ($1 to sgalczyn), how much prestige would that bring?

I am not trying sell this idea. I guess I am sort of playing devil's advocate to your point; just thinking out loud about the subject.



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I don't understand how you actually bind additional hydrogen with water.

No direct experience.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Having had first hand experience I would try most anything. If you have never had these side effects you have no idea. I would give it a try if it is not too costly. What side effects are we talking about?

+1

I can relate to the OP's friend's son-in-law. I have not had cancer (knock on wood), but both Mom and Dad have been treated with radiation and/or chemo for cancer. I've helplessly watched one or both vomit, diarrhea, urinating blood, vertigo, nausea, headaches, hearing loss, pain that narcotics wouldn't touch, shortness of breath, insane blood pressure, chronic fatigue, hair loss, brain fog, hearing loss, etc. It's heart wrenching to watch.

None of their docs made money off any of the products that reduced side effects. Prescriptions were called in without office visits, but there isn't a prescription for every side effect. So many side effects the patient is told clean diet, rest, exercise when you don't feel like it, and generally power through it. The amount of times a cancer patient fakes feeling well so their loved ones don't worry is staggering.

One thing our family found is there is a real benefit to having a 2nd person at the oncologist appointments. Sometimes the quantity of information is overwhelming, sometimes the brain fog meant the patient not fully understanding, sometimes the medical jargon is overwhelming, and sometimes the news is an absolute punch in the gut and nothing is heard after the gut punch. If I was the 2nd person in the room and heard a respected oncologist recommend hydrogen water to deal with side effects and they don't have a financial stake (i.e. not selling it) then I'd be all over it.

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Originally posted by Georgeair:
I don't understand how you actually bind additional hydrogen with water.

You can't and free ionic hydrogen is referred to protons in biochemistry. Your body is literally filled with proton pumps in the ATP cycle.