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Did I miss someone post the actual restraint from the court? Here is the extent of the ruling from a copy of the order I found:

ENJOINED AND RESTRAINED from, in any manner or by any means, removing individuals with refugee applications approved by U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services as part of the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program, holders of valid immigrant and non-immigrant visas, and other individuals from Iraq, Iran, Sudan, Libya, Somalia, and Yemen legally authorized to enter the United States.


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Iran bans US citizens.

Well there goes my dream vacation abroad.

http://fox6now.com/2017/01/28/...sident-trumps-order/



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The past six presidents have all blocked classes of people from entering the United States. LINK

Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”


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Iran bans US citizens.

Well there goes my dream vacation abroad.

http://fox6now.com/2017/01/28/...sident-trumps-order/



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Not much of a vacation land anyway. The people we need visiting them should probably be more of the covert types. Iranian culture is divided between one in the seventh century and the other in the 21st.

It is interesting to hear Iranian, death to America, blow-hards tell us what is unconstitutional.

The left's propaganda has arrived to where even enemy propaganda machines will aim at leftist misinformation. Iranians and others must laugh themselves silly about Obama and his progeny.

"Protest. Don't think!" The left should at least rally on a truthful basis. Maybe the left needs some sort of lotion to settle the ants in their pants. . . . or is it un-American CAIR?

The great Native American leader, Elizabeth Warren, is on the job with all the falseness of her biological origin.

With President Trump's speed of action, the left may pass out from all the hyperventilation.


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Link to original video: https://youtu.be/1mBKVCNEW1o


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I'm late on writing this. But now that Trump is in for a solid week, I thought I'd post this.

I kept wondering why seeing Trump inaugurated felt so good. Why was I so glad to see it? I mean, he wasn't my first pick out of the GOP field. Granted, I was SO glad to see him sweep Jeb off the stage, I started liking him more for just that reason. But I was a Cruz supporter (and still think he would have been a great POTUS). And I am old enough that the first Presidential vote I was able to cast was for Reagan. Yet, for some reason, this time felt better than that one. Then it hit me as to why.

When Reagan ran against Carter, pretty much everyone knew that weakling Carter had NO chance at re-election. I mean, the Ayatollah had pantsed him on the world stage for over a year. I still remember those "Pray for the hostages held in Iran" bumper stickers. Saw some that were weathered, faded, and peeling. Yet the hostages remained in captivity even after the failed rescue attempt. The economy was in the crapper (I remember watching "Femmy" Carter deliver his "Malaise" speech on live TV). But I, and the rest of the country knew the only reason he was POTUS was due to the aftereffect of Watergate. Ford only went through the motions of running for office, but even he realized there was NO way he was going to win. So Carter was an aberration of the time. And I knew, as did everyone I knew, that Carter was done for.

But fast forward to 2008 and we have Obama. I thought "Okay, first black President. So people voted for the novelty." Plus the GOP ran a candidate who had no chance against him. So I could see where OZero was going to win. Most young people in their 20's and 30's weren't going to vote for a geezer like McCain over a young guy like Zippy. Again fast forward and I thought "Okay, we've had our play time, now it's time to let the adults drive." I really thought Mittens could pull it off. But for some reason, after the second debate it almost seemed like he thought "Well, I've done enough. That should do it." So we were faced with another 4 years of King Putt. But at that point I was truly worried about the direction of our economy. In his first term, OZero started driving toward the cliff. And given how many of the Con-gress critters who voted for OZeorCAIR were turned out of office, I thought we, as a country, had awakened from our stupor. But no, we re-elected Zippy the Wonder Putz.

Which brings us the this election cycle. Back in the era of Carter, someone with the history of Cankles Corrupticus wouldn't even get 1% support, even in the Dhimmicratic party of that day. Just as the failed attempt to rescue the hostages doomed Carter, the not-even-attempted rescue of embassy personnel should have relegated the Hag of Benghazi to the status of a political leaper. Yet despite he baggage, she wins the party nomination overwhelmingly. This gets me to think that we, as a nation, have finally gone over the edge. That we've become drunk on the crazy sauce. Were the Hag to win, she'd appoint SCOTUS justices who would make Ginsberg look like Scalia or Thomas in comparison. She openly talked about using SCOTUS to overturn the entirety of the 2nd Amendment. And we all know that's not the only amendment she'd go after.

So on election night, I sat, glass in hand, watching the returns. I hoped for the best but was expecting the worst. As it turns out, the results were even better than the best. It wasn't even close. It wasn't even close enough such that the Hag of Benghazi could flip one state and win (as AlBore tried to do in FL with their selective recount).

So why did I feel so good? Because I went to be that night in the knowledge that our country hasn't fully drunk the crazy sauce. And I did see Trump give his victory speech that night. Ever since, he's acted and sounded more and more Presidential. So when I watched him shake hands with Roberts after the oath, I was elated. And I was because I believe the country of my birth, the country I love, is not done yet.


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I thought it would be fun to watch some of the Sunday morning news shows. But after the first idiot I saw on Fox (Sanders' former campaign manager) I don't think I can take it.

Thank God for President Trump.
 
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I rarely watch that stuff anymore. In order to drive their ratings and create the "after buzz", theyre having to drag out the nuttier and nuttier from the other side. At a certain point I realized I wasnt being educated, but I WAS being played. That sealed it for me.


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The past six presidents have all blocked classes of people from entering the United States. LINK

Section 212(f) of the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 states: “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”


Granted I have zero expertise in immigration issues, but by my common man reading of the quote above, it seems clear that the President can bar aliens from entering the country and it doesn't matter if they were mid-flight.

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I'm with Skins and Balze on the immigration issue. Those that have already "passed" the test and have green cards and lived in the US, should be able to return without having to wait 90 days. I think a grandfather clause of sorts fits here. Might a bad person fall through the cracks here? Possibly. I still think they should be allowed back in. Start the vetting on new immigrants today.


They may have passed the tests or met the standards in the past, but they don't meet the current standards. President Trump said so. That's good enough for me. Rescreen all of them.
 
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The left has still not grappled with the fact that they do not have the answers needed for our times. The immigration issue is just one of them.

The left is trying to re-push its own failures but the people of the United States do not want to lose security and their country such as is happening in Europe. Terror attacks, death to Christianity and the loss of basic safety with confused identity is taking Europe down to some low places.

As just another example, Hillary and the left was so sure nothing could be done about corporate inversion; yet, President Trump has new jobs being brought back here with Billions of dollars of investment.

Hillary said that such was impossible. Why? Because it was impossible for her the same way that her policies and those of the left fail to know what is necessary to keep us safe from those who would kill themselves to kill us.

The administration stands in stark contrast to those who did not put us first. Here's ole' Hillary and her, eh humm, leadership:



I guess an oldie but, to me, the philosophy of failure and irrational fear has given way to an American can-do spirit again. The above YouTube came to mind in seeing the stark difference between what type of policies the left prefers. They're not thinking, I tell you. It's emotion.

These protests and crowd whipping histrionics fanned by the no-longer-believable media will wilt as more and more see success.


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From what I read, the actual number of people effected is fairly small, right around 200. It would seem that given the circimstances, these individuals should be able to be vetted fairly quickly and either allowed in or sent packing.

The "spontaneity" of these protests leads me to believe that it was planned a while back. I know...big surprise. It also seems when all the dust settles on it, the left can claim a "victory against Trump" when in reality very little was accomplished. Like the protests themselves, its all about perceptions.


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So, I just got back to the US after a week. Didn't and couldn't follow news. It seems the immigration shitstorm is all hysteria.

Best article I've found so far:

National Review - Separating Fact from Hysteria

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The ban, however, contains an important exception: “Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may, on a case-by-case basis, and when in the national interest, issue visas or other immigration benefits to nationals of countries for which visas and benefits are otherwise blocked.” In other words, the secretaries can make exceptions — a provision that would, one hopes, fully allow interpreters and other proven allies to enter the U.S. during the 90-day period.

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However, there are reports that the ban is being applied even to green-card holders. This is madness. The plain language of the order doesn’t apply to legal permanent residents of the U.S., and green-card holders have been through round after round of vetting and security checks. The administration should intervene, immediately, to stop misapplication. If, however, the Trump administration continues to apply the order to legal permanent residents, it should indeed be condemned.


The mischaracterization of what Trump put in the EO is outrageous but not unexpected.

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King Putt did it in 2015 but no outrage

King Putt did in it in 2011 but no outrage

Why Trump did it and the outrage started before the EO text was released

OK so yeah, we've got to be fair and have a judge step in

But the particular judge in question is a classic Schumer operative




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Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R.-Wis.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R.-Ky.) told reporters Thursday at the Republicans’ policy retreat here that they are committed to a 200-day program to implement the agenda of President Donald J. Trump.

New administrations have been captive to the “First 100 Days” framing ever since President Franklin D. Roosevelt came into office in 1933 with a whirlwind of legislation and administrative actions. But, Ryan said, the Republicans had developed along with the Trump White House a 200-day plan that will wrap up with the August recess.

At the end of the 200 days, Capitol Hill Republicans expect to have repealed and replaced Obamacare, filled the vacant seat on the Supreme Court, and executed the most dramatic reform of the federal tax code since President Ronald W. Reagan’s flattening of tax rates in 1986.

Ryan insisted that he and Trump and McConnell are on the same page.

McConnell said a major factor in moving from the traditional 100-day plan to a 200-day plan was the Senate’s confirmation workload. Dozens of appointments require Senate approval, which he said converts the Senate into the White House’s personnel office.

It is now clear from conversations with Republican senators and staff that if ending debate on Trump’s pick for the Supreme Court is blocked by Schumer, the GOP is ready to strike down the last vestige of the filibuster for presidential appointees.

The only answer a Republican senator gives for the record on the matter is: “The seat will be filled.” It is the same answer every time from everyone.

The last big item is the overhaul of the federal tax code. Of all of the GOP plans, this is the one most hidden from public view.

In the past, the grand bargain of Republican tax reform proposals was to return to the ideals of the 1986 legislation, which eliminated deductions in exchange for lowering rates. Flattening the tax code, or even going to a flat tax with one rate with very few deductions,was the ultimate goal.

Trump-era tax reform is something else entirely. This is full-on industrial policy and a shifting of the tax burden back onto imports and off of exports. This is not a new idea and, given the man’s popularity on Broadway, it is only fitting that America returns to the essence of Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton’s 1791 “Report on Subject Manufactures.”

Hamilton called on Congress to protect “infant industries” with tariffs on imported goods, which until 1916 and the birth of the income tax provided the vast majority of federal revenues.

Today, the United States runs a trade deficit of $30-to-$40 billion per month, and Republicans are ready to tap or monetize that trade gap to the tune of $1 trillion per year. How they are going to do it is beyond the scope of this course. Suffice to say, they intend to not only raise this revenue to pay for massive tax cuts, but also to remove the economic incentive for American companies to move manufacturing overseas and then ship their finished products into the United States.

Of course, the ox gored in this reform is retailers and companies which rely on imported materials but do not export. Those folks are completely aware of what is going on, and of all the fights coming to Capitol Hill in the next 200 days, the tax overhaul will be the most vicious and the most likely to break up friendships.

It is almost surreal to hear Ryan or McConnell speak of the president with respect and affection after a campaign cycle in which neither man dared stand up for him publicly amid crisis after crisis.

Yet the Republican Party is now Trump’s party, with the exception of Sen. John S. McCain III (R.-Ariz.) and his sidekick Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R.-S.C.). But two rebels does not become a problem until they find a third senator. Otherwise, the Capitol Hill Republicans are on board and on duty for the president.

It is also fair to say that Trump is also on board and on duty for his congressional party. More than once in his young presidency, he has signaled that he will fight alongside his congressmen and senators and give them political cover — a luxury never enjoyed by Democrats serving under Obama.
 
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This is disturbing ....

A woman impersonated the wife of a GOP lawmaker and snuck into the congressional Republican retreat in Philadelphia Thursday, the same day President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence appeared, retreat organizers told lawmakers late Saturday.

The revelation came as the nonprofit Congressional Institute that organizes the retreat investigates how audio of the gathering leaked. In an email to GOP lawmakers, institute president Mark Strand did not directly say that the impersonator was the same person who leaked the audio, but that was the implication.

"The Congressional Institute is continuing to investigate this breach in order to fully understand how it happened and to ensure it does not happen again," said Strand's email, which was obtained by The Associated Press.

The audio was leaked to several news outlets and first reported by The Washington Post. It reveals lawmakers airing concerns about the practical difficulties and political risks of repealing and replacing President Barack Obama's health care law, among other things.

There is also audio of a question-and-answer session with Pence, indicating that the intruder was in the same room as the vice president, which raises security concerns. It was not immediately clear if she was also present for the session with Trump, who spoke before Pence but did not engage in a private discussion with lawmakers.

The email says that the unauthorized person "misrepresented herself on multiple occasions to retreat organizers as the spouse of an elected official" and used counterfeit credentials.

She went through the same security checkpoints as every other attendee, including magnetometers, and was escorted from the event around 6:30 p.m. Thursday, after Trump and Pence left. The email says officials are working to "ascertain the identity of the woman in question."

Capitol Police and the Sergeant at Arms are investigating, according to a statement Saturday night from Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers, R-Wash., who chairs the House GOP conference.

"Leaks from internal member discussions are unacceptable," McMorris Rodgers said. She said she welcomed an investigation "to get to the bottom of this serious breach, as these conversations are intended to allow members to candidly discuss how to address the issues facing the American people."

In the audio, leaked anonymously to several news outlets, Republican lawmakers could be heard airing their concerns about the health care issue.

"We'd better be sure that we're prepared to live with the market we've created," Rep. Tom McClintock, R-Calif., was quoted as saying in the Post and elsewhere. "That's going to be called `Trumpcare.' Republicans will own that lock, stock and barrel, and we'll be judged in the election less than two years away."

Rep. Tom MacArthur, R-N.J., worried that Republican plans could strip health insurance from many of the 20 million people who gained coverage through the Affordable Care Act, including through the expansion of Medicaid.

"We're telling those people that we're not going to pull the rug out from under them, and if we do this too fast, we are in fact going to pull the rug out from under them," MacArthur was quoted as saying.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...nto-gop-retreat.html
 
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Iran bans US citizens.

Well there goes my dream vacation abroad.

http://fox6now.com/2017/01/28/...sident-trumps-order/



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qnFh18c7oo

Peter Navarro praise for President Trump starts at 7:48.

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Peter Navarro is one of the few actual economists in the Trump Administration, and by far the most powerful.

As an economist, Navarro is trained in the academic rigor of looking at data, sussing out its deeper meaning and implications, then communicating those findings in a way that benefits future monetary policy. Some would even argue that economics is a social science, inherently devoid of any political orthodoxy.

But those people would probably not understand Peter Navarro’s brand of economics.

See, Peter Navarro engages in an economics of belief. He doesn’t need data or facts to know that President Trump’s nascent policy of creating a border adjustment tax would be great for everyone and have no negative impact on American retailers. And he would prefer that other so-called “economists” just shut the fuck up with their worthless, data-driven theories that retailers who make goods outside the US (ie, almost of all of them) would be damaged by paying a tax on bringing in those goods to sell inside the fifty states. Just like Peter Navarro knows that China is a cartoonishly evil global economic force without a massive population key to US business growth, and that rain in the rainforests means that people should buy coffee, he knows that the border adjustment tax is great.

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Trump made Charles Schumer cry.

Thank you Mr. President.

That folks, is the taste of Liberals tears.............the taste of FREEDOM!!!!!


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Customs agents ignore judge, enforce Trump’s travel ban: ACLU

The ACLU is getting “multiple reports” that federal customs agents are siding with President Trump — and willfully ignoring a Brooklyn federal judge’s demand that travelers from seven Muslim countries not be deported from the nation’s airports.

“The court’s order could not be clearer… they need to comply with the order,” Omar Jadwat, director of the ACLU’s Immigrants Rights project, told The Post late Saturday.

“It’s enough to be a serious concern,” Jadwat said of the reports.

Jadwat and other ACLU lawyers had earlier Saturday night won an emergency stay of Trump’s deportation order from Brooklyn Federal Judge Ann Donnelly.

http://nypost.com/2017/01/29/c...mps-travel-ban-aclu/


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Thank you Mr. President.

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I just saw a picture of his little press conference. Talk about a dramatic little photo op.

I think this prick is going to be worse than the old moldy senator from Nevada.




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