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January 28, 2017, 01:58 PM
sdy
The Trump Presidency
This is one I didn't realize was going on.

A blogger wrote that Melania Trump was a "high end escort".

So Melania hired the same lawyer who won Hulk Hogan a ton of $, and she is suing the blogger for $150 Million.

Blogger tried to get judge to dismiss the suit, but the judge wasn't buying his story. Lawsuit will continue.

I hope she wins.

Details:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...her-high-end-escort/
January 28, 2017, 02:00 PM
6guns
If you can possibly stomach 13 minutes of The View, Omarosa Manigault, in President Trump's administration does a fantastic job of getting the message out!

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/...e-leaves-speechless/




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January 28, 2017, 02:01 PM
stickman428
It was painful at times to watch but she certainly did hold her own. (I follow Milo too).

That woman on the far left needs to do the world a favor and suck start a shot gun.


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January 28, 2017, 02:04 PM
6guns
I'm with Skins and Balze on the immigration issue. Those that have already "passed" the test and have green cards and lived in the US, should be able to return without having to wait 90 days. I think a grandfather clause of sorts fits here. Might a bad person fall through the cracks here? Possibly. I still think they should be allowed back in. Start the vetting on new immigrants today.




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January 28, 2017, 02:08 PM
entropy
Athletes? You mean the co-ed Yemenese hockey team wont be able to come back for the rest of the season? Dang.

For those who left and may be delayed in getting back into the US? They should have been watching the news and listening to our new President.

Also, why....WHY are we letting these hi-tech types go back and forth from this Country in the first place? Seems to me to be opening ourslves up to loosing a lot...


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January 28, 2017, 02:20 PM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:

It is not about fair, nor need it be. It is about allowing entry only to persons whose situations, beliefs, intentions, can be reasonable vetted.

The San Bernardino shooters might be an example. "Farook was an American-born U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent, who worked as a health department employee. Malik was a Pakistani-born lawful permanent resident of the United States." Wikipedia. You can't ban entry to US citizens. She got in under the "visas to married to US citizen" rules, and eventually got a green card.

Who is to say some of these folks, citizens of the prohibited contries, have been legitimately, properly vetted? Some have been, doubtless. The purpose of this temporary exclusion is to allow an examination of the procedures to tighten up as needed, without every joe jehadi rushing to the entry line while the bureaucrats scratch their heads.

"Fair" is a luxury too many have become accustomed to. We have replaced "In God We Trust" with "It's Not Fair!" It's important to be fair whenever possible, of course, but not at the expense of all other considerations.


Yeah, but hasn't that ship sailed for these people who already have green cards? They've been vetted with the process that was in place at the time. If they are a permanent resident, their lives are now in the US. I'm imagining someone like my wife who maybe returned to France for whatever reason, maybe just for a week, and then all of sudden couldn't return home to see her daughter and her job and her husband for what? 90 days is it. It's outrageous frankly.

And I'm speaking specifically to lawful permanent residents.


My best friend is a Kiwi, been here ~35 years, not a citizen, green card. His wife too.

If you can imagine a reason to limit entry of Kiwis and Aussies, other than a beer shortage in the US, they might get caught up in it, and it would be unfortunate.

The same considerations apply to France and its citizens, and most other countries. What might justify blocking entry of them? It's one of the rewards of good, responsible living. There is no reason to limit entry imaginable.

We try to do things for a reason. It's rational. If there is no reason, there's no reason. If there is a reason, why be silly about it? Stop things while they figure out under what curcumstances, what information, etc. ought to go into a visa grant.




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When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

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January 28, 2017, 02:29 PM
RAMIUS
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
If you can possibly stomach 13 minutes of The View, Omarosa Manigault, in President Trump's administration does a fantastic job of getting the message out!

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/...e-leaves-speechless/


I have a whole new respect for Omarosa. Behar tried to trap her and was owned.
January 28, 2017, 02:42 PM
SIG228
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
If you can possibly stomach 13 minutes of The View, Omarosa Manigault, in President Trump's administration does a fantastic job of getting the message out!

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/...e-leaves-speechless/


Skip to the last minute of that video, it was great! Basically told Joy what a miserable bitch she is. Loved it!
January 28, 2017, 02:53 PM
darthfuster
quote:
Originally posted by SIG228:
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
If you can possibly stomach 13 minutes of The View, Omarosa Manigault, in President Trump's administration does a fantastic job of getting the message out!

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/...e-leaves-speechless/


Skip to the last minute of that video, it was great! Basically told Joy what a miserable bitch she is. Loved it!


Joy looked like someone stuffed a peeled lemon in her mouth....lolol



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January 28, 2017, 03:07 PM
Muddflap
Her ass was puckered up so tight, if she would have farted, dogs all over town would have been barking.
January 28, 2017, 03:07 PM
Tubetone
quote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
If you can possibly stomach 13 minutes of The View, Omarosa Manigault, in President Trump's administration does a fantastic job of getting the message out!

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/...e-leaves-speechless/


I have a whole new respect for Omarosa. Behar tried to trap her and was owned.


She deftly controlled that whole segment. Very well done Omarosa.


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January 28, 2017, 03:07 PM
sjtill
NY Times and CNN websites today are nothing but how "the world is stunned" at Trump's "ban".
LA Times: If you're an immigrant we want to hear from you.


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January 28, 2017, 03:09 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:

It is not about fair, nor need it be. It is about allowing entry only to persons whose situations, beliefs, intentions, can be reasonable vetted.

The San Bernardino shooters might be an example. "Farook was an American-born U.S. citizen of Pakistani descent, who worked as a health department employee. Malik was a Pakistani-born lawful permanent resident of the United States." Wikipedia. You can't ban entry to US citizens. She got in under the "visas to married to US citizen" rules, and eventually got a green card.

Who is to say some of these folks, citizens of the prohibited contries, have been legitimately, properly vetted? Some have been, doubtless. The purpose of this temporary exclusion is to allow an examination of the procedures to tighten up as needed, without every joe jehadi rushing to the entry line while the bureaucrats scratch their heads.

"Fair" is a luxury too many have become accustomed to. We have replaced "In God We Trust" with "It's Not Fair!" It's important to be fair whenever possible, of course, but not at the expense of all other considerations.


Yeah, but hasn't that ship sailed for these people who already have green cards? They've been vetted with the process that was in place at the time. If they are a permanent resident, their lives are now in the US. I'm imagining someone like my wife who maybe returned to France for whatever reason, maybe just for a week, and then all of sudden couldn't return home to see her daughter and her job and her husband for what? 90 days is it. It's outrageous frankly.

And I'm speaking specifically to lawful permanent residents.


My best friend is a Kiwi, been here ~35 years, not a citizen, green card. His wife too.

If you can imagine a reason to limit entry of Kiwis and Aussies, other than a beer shortage in the US, they might get caught up in it, and it would be unfortunate.

The same considerations apply to France and its citizens, and most other countries. What might justify blocking entry of them? It's one of the rewards of good, responsible living. There is no reason to limit entry imaginable.

We try to do things for a reason. It's rational. If there is no reason, there's no reason. If there is a reason, why be silly about it? Stop things while they figure out under what curcumstances, what information, etc. ought to go into a visa grant.


Well, I'm not sure what you're going on about.
What would justify blocking entry to a person who has lived here for 35 years and has a green card but is from Iraq instead of France or New Zealand? We're not talking about a visa here. We're talking about people who are permanent residents of this country.

Are the ones who are currently in the USA as a permanent resident and are from these countries being re-evaluated? If not, then there's no sense to it.


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January 28, 2017, 03:15 PM
oldbill123
I cannot understand why anyone who escaped these countries would voluntarily go back. Most likely are spying at some level. And I agree, ban Saudi's too
January 28, 2017, 03:19 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by oldbill123:
I cannot understand why anyone who escaped these countries would voluntarily go back. Most likely are spying at some level. And I agree, ban Saudi's too


Certainly you visit your parents or other family from time to time, no?


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January 28, 2017, 03:32 PM
olfuzzy
President Trump on Saturday will sign an executive order to restructure the White House’s National Security Council and put in place new procedures, a senior administration official told Fox News.

The official also said Trump will “soon” sign an executive order to put in place a five-year moratorium on lobbying by former administration officials and a lifetime ban on lobbying foreign governments.

Trump vowed on the campaign trail, if elected, to institute such bans, arguing that Washington is too controlled by political insiders, including those going from the White House to high-paying K Street jobs.

Details about the executive order Saturday have yet to be released. But Trump, a Republican, is wary about at least parts of the U.S. intelligence community assembled by predecessor President Obama, a Democrat.

Trump has been critical of an official report the community recently released that found Russia and Russian President Vladimir Putin meddled in the 2016 White House race, to help Trump upset Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

He’s also suggested somebody within the community leaked an unofficial dossier on Trump that had potentially damaging but unsubstantiated claims about Trump.

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...ecurity-council.html
January 28, 2017, 03:56 PM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
President Trump on Saturday will sign an executive order to restructure the White House’s National Security Council and put in place new procedures, a senior administration official told Fox News.

The official also said Trump will “soon” sign an executive order to put in place a five-year moratorium on lobbying by former administration officials and a lifetime ban on lobbying foreign governments.

Trump vowed on the campaign trail, if elected, to institute such bans, arguing that Washington is too controlled by political insiders, including those going from the White House to high-paying K Street jobs.



He just signed these executive orders. One was also their plan on defeating ISIS.

In regards to the lobbying ban, I just wish Congress could make this a law. Since it's just an executive order, it can be wiped out by the next president, couldn't it?

Anyway, good stuff.


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January 28, 2017, 04:16 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
If you can possibly stomach 13 minutes of The View, Omarosa Manigault, in President Trump's administration does a fantastic job of getting the message out!

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/...e-leaves-speechless/

I am so sick of hearing about tax returns. They are his business and his business only. Nobody is entitled to see his private tax information just like nobody is entitled to see mine. I'm sick of it. These people just need to STFU.


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January 28, 2017, 04:19 PM
olfuzzy
Oh no, tell me it isn't so Eek

Iran will retaliate against Trump's immigration ban by 'limiting visas to American tourists' - as other world leaders unite in anger over U.S. president's executive order


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...immigration-ban.html
January 28, 2017, 04:20 PM
TMats
quote:
Originally posted by 6guns:
If you can possibly stomach 13 minutes of The View, Omarosa Manigault, in President Trump's administration does a fantastic job of getting the message out!

https://milo.yiannopoulos.net/...e-leaves-speechless/

Ms. Manigault is a very formidable woman. I'm glad the Trump Administration has her on the team.


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