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Really? Death to anyone who simply disagrees with you? Or has a different viewpoint than you? To serve as a deterrent and warning to others? You don't think that is extreme? JALLEN and I live in a world where two sides differ in opinions. (That's why they call their lawyers). I'm pretty sure in a civilized society (including this country), most of us on this board would agree that is neither legal nor moral to kill people who disagree with you simply for disagreeing with you. | |||
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Um, I don't think this was a call to arms. It's just someone letting off some steam after the constant violence committed by the left. You can relax. | |||
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I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Nah. He has noticed, as I have, that Greg has a pronounced tendency lean towards wishes of death or serious violence to those he disagrees with. It may be part of his charm. Maybe it's a Canadian thing, or live free or die, etc. Quite a few exhibit this here, advocating physically impossible acts, sticking parts into other parts they don't normally belong, dropping out of airplanes on fire, that sort of thing. Greg leads the pack as I notice it. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
I think we can all agree that it's entirely possible for Gwyneth Paltrow to fall or be pushed into an active volcano, and that this would not necessarily be a bad thing. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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Meanwhile, it's all just talk. Compare that to an earlier post depicting the truth. (I forget who posted it.)
nhtagmember is the least of my worries. | |||
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Peace through superior firepower |
Maybe kill them just a little bit. | |||
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I have few worries so it is hard to rank them with confidence, or even to say whether this is a worry or more like a personality study. Greg and I have visited in Coronado, dined on several occasions, and have a number of common interests, Gwyneth Paltrow not among them. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Meanwhile in the real war:
Link _________________________ “ What all the wise men promised has not happened, and what all the damned fools said would happen has come to pass.”— Lord Melbourne | |||
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I have had this conversation with friends before as it pertains to the "It's just politics" angle. I'll ask you the same thing I ask them: You're walking down the street minding our own business and some thug believes he is entitled to half of your money. He pulls a gun, and takes it. Now imagine that you're sitting in your living room at home, and some Democrats believe they are entitled to half of your money. They send in a government agent with a gun and take it. What's the difference? | |||
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All I am going to say is being the Clinton's hit man must be a very well paid position and they do keep you busy. | |||
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Political Cynic |
more than anything its a profound sense of disgust with the current crop that try to nitpick the agenda these people are doing nothing more than looking for ways to hamstring and confound the president and they are doing it in such a way that they are doing their best to endanger the security of the US this 'judge' has pulled this same stunt before because he doesn't 'like' the president - and I am sure the feeling is mutual but at some point these people need to be put in their place grandparent - give me a break...how about their family pets - they weren't covered in the order - do we let in the dogs and cats? really, at what point do we fight back and what tools do we use to fight? we voted, that was supposed to mean something - but apparently its the least important thing we do right now - go through the motions, put on a good show...but its a farce all of it I thought these public servants were supposed to be working FOR us and not AGAINST us [B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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I'm guessing this will be one of the next things for the media to spend endless hours discussing: The August/September issue of the liberal political magazine "The New Republic" has a story about how Russian mobsters and corrupt oligarchs used Trump's properties to launder vast sums of money, and in the process, propped up Trump’s business and enabled him to reinvent his image. Here's their lead-in to the story: "In “Trump’s Russian Laundromat,” veteran journalist Craig Unger details how the Russian mafia has used the president’s properties—including Trump Tower and the Trump Taj Majal—as a way to launder money and hide assets. “Whether Trump knew it or not,” writes Unger, “Russian mobsters and corrupt oligarchs used his properties not only to launder vast sums of money from extortion, drugs, gambling, and racketeering, but even as a base of operations for their criminal activities. In the process, they propped up Trump’s business and enabled him to reinvent his image. Without the Russian mafia, it is fair to say, Donald Trump would not be president of the United States.” Based entirely on the extensive public record, the piece offers the most comprehensive overview of the deep debt that the president owes the Russian mafia. “The extent of Trump’s ties to the Russian mafia—and the degree to which he relied on them for his entire business model—is striking,” says Eric Bates, editor of the New Republic. “After reading this story, it should come as no surprise to anyone that the president continues to exhibit a deep loyalty to the world of shady Russian operatives who have invested vast sums in his properties.” Here's a link to the actual story. It's over 10 pages: https://newrepublic.com/articl...onal-crime-syndicate | |||
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What the DemonRats are doing in your example may be legal, while what the thief did was illegal. Morally, they are pretty close to equivalent though. Another answer: "You will be in significantly less trouble if you shoot the stickup man (provided that you and/or your lawyer can convey that you were in legitimate fear for your life) than you will be if you shoot the government agent sent by the DemonRats (no matter what you or your attorney say)." Elections have consequences. The less DemonRats in a position to send folks after your hard earned cash, the better off you are... | |||
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That was a long article. I'll summarize it: DJT is a successful business man and additionally a brand all unto himself. Also he owned very valuable and desirable real estate which was highly sought after. Very rich people bought those properties and sought to make deals with him in order to use his brand to make money themselves. He sold those people the properties and branding rights as any business man would do. It ended up turning out that some of those rich people got their money by committing crimes. He has no duty to investigate where rich people get their money, in fact it's none of his business and would be bad for business. It would be the same as saying Sports Authority was complicit in organized crime because they sell bats. They have no duty to ask their customers if they intend to break knee caps with those bats. Giant nothing burger. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I don't think this guys knows much about this. Did they impune Bernie Madoff's landlord? That could be money laundering. Most real estate transactions could be laundering, depending on the buyer's intentions which are seldom if ever known, and not ordinarily discernible with confidence anyway. The use of the term "oligarch" raises hackles. What makes them so? Can I be one? I sold a lot of houses to Mexicans. What were they doing? Buying houses to launder money? Drug shipments? Pretend to live in the states so their kids could go to US schools? Who the hell knows? In my experience, which is somewhat significant, neither journalists nor US Attirneys know squat abiut real estate transaction, paperwork processes, money flows, custom and practice. Everything looks suspicious to someone who doesn't know what they are looking at. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Ammoholic |
Tucker Carlson finds evidence of Russian colussion. It's just not how or who you'd think it would be based on media coverage. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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The thugs are acting outside the law; the govt is acting within the law. If you don't like the thugs taking your stuff, you can shoot them. If you don't like the govt taking your stuff, then you can vote, organize, protest, demonstrate, run for office yourself, etc etc etc. All sorts of legal actions are available to us under our current form of government to *change* the law. Of course, that is too tedious for some; thus the 'shoot the feds' line that pops up here from time to time. If you don't like the govt we have, then move to Cuba or North Korea for a couple years; see what it's like when the govt has ALL the power and the people have none. Or move to Colombia, Syria, or Iraq where people randomly shoot federal officials. You just might discover that our current system isn't that bad. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC | |||
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