Originally posted by nhtagmember: they have opened the door to special prosecutors they may not like where this goes as the trail may lead to yet others that were unexpected... if they want the truth, lets give them ALL the truth
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
May 18, 2017, 08:05 AM
BMR
How about this, Mr. President - instead of appointing a totally unnecessary special prosecutor, appoint Robert Mueller as FBI Director?
May 18, 2017, 08:19 AM
Tuckerrnr1
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May 18, 2017, 10:23 AM
sigfreund
Mark Twain really referred to the news reporting businesses as the “media” sometime before he died in 1910? Which one(s) besides the press was he referring to—the teevee or radio?
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May 18, 2017, 10:27 AM
sigmonkey
"Do not believe everything you read on the Internet about Mark Twian!"
-Abraham Lincoln
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May 18, 2017, 10:27 AM
JALLEN
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Originally posted by sigmonkey: "Do not believe everything you read on the Internet about Mark Twian!"
-Abraham Lincoln
Or Mark Twain either.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023
May 18, 2017, 11:08 AM
chellim1
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Originally posted by FiveFiveSixFan:
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Originally posted by chellim1: ... The White House can get back to focusing on the agenda.
Tongue in cheek?
It has to be incredibly difficult to concentrate on an agenda when vast numbers of media members are constantly conflating having a special counsel with the need for impeachment proceedings to commence immediately.
May 18, 2017 The special prosecutor: Democrats, be careful what you wish for By Howard J. Warner
Yesterday, Deputy A.G. Rod Rosenstein appointed former FBI director Robert Mueller as the special counsel, with full federal attorney powers, in the investigation of Russian interference in the electoral process of 2016. At this point, Mueller has been given unlimited time and the ability to follow any related pathways regarding the scope and breadth of the Russian investigation. But, as anyone familiar with recent history may remember, any special prosecutor may venture down paths not originally contemplated, as Bill Clinton could attest.
For Donald Trump, this deck of cards provides many possible outcomes. Trump, not a seasoned politician, has created many unforced errors during his four months in office. All his accomplishments have received scant coverage by the media (not willing to give him credit) as his tweets, hyperbole, and misstatements have overshadowed his agenda. His private conversation with James Comey, which led to a purported memo partially leaked to the New York Times, was the kind of error that increased the pressure upon Rosenstein to appoint Mueller.
Many Democrats have urged the appointment of a special prosecutor. For those convinced that Trump's election was illegitimate, the only outcome is for Mueller is to find criminality during the private Comey meeting in February, such as obstruction of justice. They seek a bill of particulars coming before Congress to allow impeachment proceedings. Some will still want an independent commission to investigate these issues as a way of keeping the negative news out front.
Leftists are convinced that Michael Flynn committed some serious violation when meeting with Russian officials. They further believe that Trump interfered in the FBI investigation into this activity. With yesterday's new report, they feel that Trump had reason to protect Flynn, since he told the transition team that he was being investigated for activity as a foreign agent prior to his appointment as national security adviser. They complain that Trump took 18 days to fire Flynn despite warnings from acting A.G. Yates that Flynn was compromised.
With the report that Trump gave intelligence information to the Russian officials while the latter were visiting the Oval Office, Trump opponents further feel he is unfit for the office. With this activity and the above issues, it is not clear what laws were broken.
Mueller will likely conduct a thorough but quiet investigation. This may help Trump get his agenda back on track. But it now means legal risk for the entire White House staff and transition personnel. Washington criminal lawyers will likely get new clients. Trump may well decide to seek personal counsel as the White House lawyer represents the office. He should certainly refrain from public and private discussion about these issues. This will help him focus on his agenda.
Republican opponents of the president now see a way to deflect him from his agenda that includes draining the D.C. swamp. The controversy now threatens to swallow Trump and his advisers. The establishment is loath to see any systemic changes. Senators such as McCain can't refrain from nicking Trump as payback for past insults.
Democrats may find that the special investigator examines the intelligence leaks as a criminal activity. The unmasking of American citizens and subsequent leaking of that information may be a lane Mueller travels. If he does, then the left will rue the day they sought a special prosecutor. The Deep State's opposition may have to contend with a more rapid replacement of Obama appointees by those from Trump as a result.
The Trump administration is new and learning the ways of Washington. Administration operatives have yet to learn how to control the narrative. The disruptive forces behind Trump depend upon his skills to enact the changes they seek. Trump ultimately makes most decisions.
On Friday, Trump leaves for his first foreign trip to the Middle East and Europe. While he is away, his political enemies will be laying more bombs in his path. This appointment may be one more diversion to limit his concentration.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
May 18, 2017, 12:17 PM
Leemur
The best part of this bullshit is that when there's nothing to report even more people will (hopefully) see how full of shit the democrats are and begin to ignore them.
May 18, 2017, 12:20 PM
FiveFiveSixFan
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Mueller will likely conduct a thorough but quiet investigation. This may help Trump get his agenda back on track. But it now means legal risk for the entire White House staff and transition personnel. Washington criminal lawyers will likely get new clients. Trump may well decide to seek personal counsel as the White House lawyer represents the office. He should certainly refrain from public and private discussion about these issues. This will help him focus on his agenda.
This piece seems rather schizophrenic. The assertion is made that this may help Trump get his agenda back on track. In the very next sentence, however, that now means legal risk for the entire White House staff and transition personnel. Apparently so much so that Washington criminal lawyers will likely get new clients. Indeed, the president himself may well decide to seek personal counsel. Additionally, the president should refrain from any discussion of these issues, publicly and privately. This will help him focus on his agenda.
I don't know about anyone else, but were I to find myself and others in my circle placed at legal risk necessitating the retention of criminal lawyers for all of us, I'm probably not going to be seriously focused on getting my agenda back on track. Should I find myself feeling the need to retain personal counsel and being advised to refrain from any discussion of these issues, my focus would no doubt be lessened even more. But that's just me.
May 18, 2017, 12:34 PM
chellim1
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The assertion is made that this may help Trump get his agenda back on track. In the very next sentence, however, that now means legal risk for the entire White House staff and transition personnel.
It says "but"... Both are possible. He won't have to focus on this matter, it's been taken out of the hands of Trump and the White House. He and his spokesman won't have to field questions on the Russian thing anymore. If there's nothing there... it's nothing to worry about. Focus on the agenda. We elected him to do a job. Repeal Obamacare. Build the wall. Appoint conservative judges.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
May 18, 2017, 12:50 PM
parabellum
What does it matter?
May 18, 2017, 01:17 PM
TXJIM
I for one am looking forward to watching Lucy pull the football for the Democrats. We have had it done to us so many times. I was reading the comments in an article about the appointment of Mueller and the libs were drooling all over themselves with the certainty that this was the nail in Trump's coffin. "Now he is done, impeachment a certainty with special council appointed to investigate". I can't wait to see the wailing and crying when nothing comes of this investigation. It will be icing on the cake if a few Democrat dirty deeds are brought to light as a result.
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May 18, 2017, 01:17 PM
chellim1
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This piece seems rather schizophrenic.
The wording of this piece doesn't matter...
However, recognizing that all of this is distracting the White House from the agenda does matter. The Left doesn't really care about the truth of the matter asserted. Any possible collusion with the Russians and all of the talk about impeachment just serves to distract and to try to keep the White House and Congress from getting anything done.
If the White House is able to return the focus to the agenda and making America Great Again, we all win.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
May 18, 2017, 04:55 PM
XLT
do you know someone who suffers from TURD ?
Someone Suffering From Trump Unacceptance & Resistance Disorder (TURD)? TURD is a pattern of pathologically dissociative and psychotic behavior, first observed in the late hours of November 8th 2016, and increasing in severity with passing time. Sufferers of TURD often exhibit pronounced cognitive dissonance, sudden bouts of rage, rioting, and uncontrollable crying. People with TURD are characterized by a persistent unwillingness to accept that Donald Trump is going to Make America Great Again.
May 18, 2017, 05:06 PM
flashguy
My only concern about the appointment of a Special Counsel is that it will prolong the situation even more and give the Leftists and Media (redundant?) time to create damning evidence out of whole cloth--if enough money is proffered it is quite possible to "find" documents that did not earlier exist, for example.
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May 18, 2017, 07:03 PM
TigerDore
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Originally posted by sigfreund: Mark Twain really referred to the news reporting businesses as the “media” sometime before he died in 1910? Which one(s) besides the press was he referring to—the teevee or radio?
I am pretty sure he was referring to the blogosphere.
May 18, 2017, 07:07 PM
TigerDore
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Originally posted by sig239dlehr:
Do you mean "Michael Myers and the Halloween sequels" or "Jason Voorhees and the Friday The 13th sequels"? I think you got your slasher movies and villains a bit sideways there! .
I think I was too traumatized by those movies to keep the characters straight.
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May 18, 2017, 10:51 PM
Rightwire
Here is a nice little media melt down. How DARE you call us liars!!!!!
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May 18, 2017, 11:28 PM
medic451
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Originally posted by Rightwire: Here is a nice little media melt down. How DARE you call us liars!!!!!
I was waiting that whole time for that guy to just slam their faces through that glass table. I dont even understand why any conservative would appear on CNN as a guest at this point. That navy seal was doing his best to stay calm, but he had that "in my head Ive killed you 6 times" look.This message has been edited. Last edited by: medic451,
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