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The Trump Presidency

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April 25, 2017, 03:41 PM
Balzé Halzé
The Trump Presidency
This is getting beyond ridiculous with these activist judges.


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April 25, 2017, 03:51 PM
sdy
William Horsley Orrick III. Appointed by Obama in 2013.

By an incredible "coincidence", Orrick was a "bundler" in the 2008 and 2012 presidential elections. In 2008 he raised at least $200,000 for Obama and donated $30,000 to committees supporting Obama.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Orrick_III
April 25, 2017, 03:54 PM
cjevans
... if these liberal judges had blocked the previous administration in the very same fashion, the hue and cry would have been heard in McMurdo.

... this is becoming very risky business.



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April 25, 2017, 04:03 PM
Rightwire
Wait a minute. Don't I recall Obama threatening to pull ALL Federal funding from a state if cities refused to follow his sanctuary ideals or prosecuted illegal immigrants according to the law?

THAT was ok, why is this not Ok? It sure seems like the same latitude within the law to me.




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April 25, 2017, 04:08 PM
stickman428
What is the best way for Trump to combat these activist judges?


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April 25, 2017, 04:15 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by lbj:
It's OK, merely a delay, that's all.
They will get their's in the end, pun intended.

Especially San Francisco.


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April 25, 2017, 04:19 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
What is the best way for Trump to combat these activist judges?

Now he can appeal all the way to SCOTUS. And he can still find ways to slow down the money. Things get hung up in the bureaucracy all the time.
April 25, 2017, 05:15 PM
Skins2881
Could someone explain to me something real quick? Why is the federal government funding city expenditures? Unless it's a interstate or multi state rail project I don't see a need for fed.gov funds. Am I missing something?



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April 25, 2017, 06:39 PM
olfuzzy
Sounds like a great idea to me Cool

Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) introduced a bill calling for the use of $14 billion seized from cartel drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman to be used to pay for the President’s border wall between the U.S. and Mexico.
“Fourteen billion dollars will go a long way toward building a wall that will keep Americans safe and hinder the illegal flow of drugs, weapons, and individuals across our southern border,” Senator Cruz stated, according to a statement obtained by Breitbart Texas from the senator’s office. “Ensuring the safety and security of Texans is one of my top priorities.”

The Texas senator said that leveraging criminally forfeited assets from El Chapo and other Mexican cartel members and drug dealers can “offset the wall’s cost and make meaningful progress toward achieving President Trump’s stated border security objectives.”

Senator Cruz introduced the Ensuring Lawful Collection of Hidden Assets to Provide Order (EL CHAPO) Act on Tuesday. “The U.S. Government is currently seeking the criminal forfeiture of more than $14 billion in drug proceeds and illicit profits from El Chapo, the former leader of the Sinaloa drug cartel who was recently extradited to the U.S. to face criminal prosecution for numerous alleged drug-related crimes, including conspiracy to commit murder and money laundering,” Cruz stated.

The Mexican government extradited the former Mexican drug kingpin in January, Breitbart Texas’ Ildefonso Ortiz reported. The move to an American prison cell followed months of court battles in Mexico and multiple escapes from prison by Guzman. As part of the agreement with Mexico, Guzman will not face the death penalty in the U.S. for his crimes. Prosecutors filed murder charges against the former drug lord in relation to the killings of a U.S. citizen and two relatives.


http://www.breitbart.com/texas...po-fund-border-wall/
April 25, 2017, 10:42 PM
Rightwire
So now CNN is laying the blame on Trump, for a battle that's been going on for years, probably before he even considered takign a shot at being President..

http://money.cnn.com/2017/04/2...-wto-tuna/index.html

Where is all of the "its Obama's fault"?




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April 26, 2017, 03:36 AM
Leonardo Da Vinci
I'm going to go with both.
Also, I am loving what I'm seeing so far. Keep the wins coming, we need them.


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April 26, 2017, 05:11 AM
nhtagmember
why doesn't a republican judge step in and stay the other judge, let it proceed pending further litigation - tat could give us a few years to implement the policy and start to put a stranglehold....

there has to be at least ONE republican judge somewhere in this country...



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April 26, 2017, 07:54 AM
chellim1
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
What is the best way for Trump to combat these activist judges?

Restructure the judicial circuits. The 9th Circuit is far too powerful.

Splitting up the 9th Circuit Court
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/4460070914/p/1

A Good Article on the Role of the Judiciary
https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...930033224#3930033224



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April 26, 2017, 09:35 AM
rduckwor
The Ninth Circuit is also the most overturned circuit in the country. Seems the Judicial system should have a performance review system to help rid us of the judges who choose to attempt to legislate from their benches.

RMD




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April 26, 2017, 09:53 AM
gw3971
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
What is the best way for Trump to combat these activist judges?
Trump needs to fill the 150 or so federal judge positions that are currently open and the republicans need to use the nuclear option to do it. They force fed us federal judges under Harry Reid.
April 26, 2017, 09:56 AM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
The Ninth Circuit is also the most overturned circuit in the country. Seems the Judicial system should have a performance review system to help rid us of the judges who choose to attempt to legislate from their benches.

RMD


Unconstitutional. Federal judges are appointed for life during good behavior.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 26, 2017, 11:03 AM
rduckwor
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:


Unconstitutional. Federal judges are appointed for life during good behavior.


Judicial legislating is good behavior?

I thought their job was to interpret the Constitution and the Law.

RMD




TL Davis: “The Second Amendment is special, not because it protects guns, but because its violation signals a government with the intention to oppress its people…”
Remember: After the first one, the rest are free.
April 26, 2017, 11:06 AM
stoic-one
quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:


Unconstitutional. Federal judges are appointed for life during good behavior.


Judicial legislating is good behavior?

I thought their job was to interpret the Constitution and the Law.

RMD
Unfortunately, using that logic, the only way to oust them is to impeach them I believe.
Good luck with that.


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April 26, 2017, 11:26 AM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by rduckwor:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:


Unconstitutional. Federal judges are appointed for life during good behavior.


Judicial legislating is good behavior?

I thought their job was to interpret the Constitution and the Law.

RMD


"Good behavior" does not extend to second guessing their decisions. It covers things like not showing up to work, habitual inebriation, failing to render decisions, bank robbery and taking bribes, in which case you are impeached and run for Congress.

One of the primary factors in life time appointments is to avoid having judges make decisions worrying about being kicked out of office or kowtowing to popular or political sentiment.

The key remedy is appoint and confirm quality people, sound thinkers, not fire breathing extremists. Another factor would be care in drafting and passing legislation. These compromises sometimes sail off into interpretative never-never land.

This has happened before, with every controversial issue since ratification.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 26, 2017, 11:39 AM
egregore
How do a federal judge's rulings affect the whole country and not just in his or her district?