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April 01, 2017, 07:06 PM
sdy
The Trump Presidency
folks, the BS about "edited tape" is ridiculous

check this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVGp2FZmVA4

looks like the whole thing. does she look "cut off" at the end?
April 01, 2017, 09:46 PM
radioman
What a tool. What on earth is she of doctor of? Ph D. in what?


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April 01, 2017, 10:11 PM
Sig2340
I predict General Flynn's request for immunity is a set up.

The Leftists will demand he get immunity.

Then he testifies truthfully that there was no collusion.





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
April 02, 2017, 08:10 AM
Carpentermaass84
If Flynn has knowledge of anything that might incriminate Trump then he needs to be silenced. If he does manage to testify then Trump should assassinate his character and start branding him as "Flim Flam Flynn the Lieberal."
April 02, 2017, 08:14 AM
justjoe
Here is an excellent article about the two big scandals of the day, Trump's supposed collusion with Russia, and-- no doubt about it-- Obama's spying on Trump. What she says about Comey is right on the mark.

If we ever do get the full story of Obama's spying, Comey will be center stage. And if justice is ever served, Comey will end up in a striped suit.

Clarise does not say this, but IMO what underlies all of this willful disregard for the law was their absolute certainty that Hillary would be elected, and none of it would ever come to light.

http://www.americanthinker.com...gence_officials.html


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April 02, 2017, 08:37 AM
braillediver
quote:
willful disregard for the law was their absolute certainty that Hillary would be elected, and none of it would ever come to light.

Hopefully this means they left a trail to follow since they never expected to be seen.


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April 02, 2017, 08:53 AM
lastmanstanding
I have asked this question before and will ask again seeing as how you bring him up. I find it more than curious that Trump continues to let him serve as director of the FBI. He is clearly a anti Trumper and pro Clinton and wields enough power to actually unseat Trump.
Why is he still there?

I sent a email to the White House asking for a explanation as to why the administration is resisting the Judicial Watch lawsuit demanding the investigation continue into the Clinton email scandal. The DOJ is lawfully required to pursue this but they have publicly refused to do so and choose to fight it in court.
IMO nothing changes until this does. We are living in a world of temporary executive orders that will change every 4 to 8 years.


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
April 02, 2017, 09:48 AM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I have asked this question before and will ask again seeing as how you bring him up. I find it more than curious that Trump continues to let him serve as director of the FBI. He is clearly a anti Trumper and pro Clinton and wields enough power to actually unseat Trump.
Why is he still there?

I sent a email to the White House asking for a explanation as to why the administration is resisting the Judicial Watch lawsuit demanding the investigation continue into the Clinton email scandal. The DOJ is lawfully required to pursue this but they have publicly refused to do so and choose to fight it in court.
IMO nothing changes until this does. We are living in a world of temporary executive orders that will change every 4 to 8 years.


If Trump were to fire Comey, what do you think the reaction would be?

Litigation like this is incredibly complicated, and DOJ is not a mere private litigant. There may be institutional, procedural or precedential factors which make it wiser to pursue it this way. Maybe those wheels are already in motion. "Clearly" has become one of the top overused words in our vocabulary.

Is Sessions the right AG? Has he been hobbled by the recusal fiasco?

Have we gotten the Deputy AG confirmed yet?




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 02, 2017, 10:14 AM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
If Flynn has knowledge of anything that might incriminate Trump then he needs to be silenced. If he does manage to testify then Trump should assassinate his character and start branding him as "Flim Flam Flynn the Lieberal."

Wow.


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April 02, 2017, 10:23 AM
Balzé Halzé
quote:
Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
If Flynn has knowledge of anything that might incriminate Trump then he needs to be silenced. If he does manage to testify then Trump should assassinate his character and start branding him as "Flim Flam Flynn the Lieberal."


Are you kidding me?


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April 02, 2017, 10:46 AM
signewt
Face the nation host seems to believe US is responsible to feed pending starvation of 20 million Africans.
April 02, 2017, 10:49 AM
lbj
Shocking unhinged editorial in the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/project...dishonest-president/


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April 02, 2017, 10:52 AM
mbinky
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
We are living in a world of temporary executive orders that will change every 4 to 8 years.


I truly believe this is how the government will function for the next few decades. Neither side is willing to give an inch, so every 4-8 years the current president will govern with EO's, swinging the country side to side. Eventually true governing will happen again but I do not forsee it for many, many, many years.
April 02, 2017, 11:48 AM
lastmanstanding
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I have asked this question before and will ask again seeing as how you bring him up. I find it more than curious that Trump continues to let him serve as director of the FBI. He is clearly a anti Trumper and pro Clinton and wields enough power to actually unseat Trump.
Why is he still there?

I sent a email to the White House asking for a explanation as to why the administration is resisting the Judicial Watch lawsuit demanding the investigation continue into the Clinton email scandal. The DOJ is lawfully required to pursue this but they have publicly refused to do so and choose to fight it in court.
IMO nothing changes until this does. We are living in a world of temporary executive orders that will change every 4 to 8 years.


If Trump were to fire Comey, what do you think the reaction would be?

Litigation like this is incredibly complicated, and DOJ is not a mere private litigant. There may be institutional, procedural or precedential factors which make it wiser to pursue it this way. Maybe those wheels are already in motion. "Clearly" has become one of the top overused words in our vocabulary.

Is Sessions the right AG? Has he been hobbled by the recusal fiasco?

Have we gotten the Deputy AG confirmed yet?

Worrying about reactions that ultimately results in inaction has always hobbled the GOP and apparently continues to do so.

There is nothing complicated in pursuing the litigation against Clinton. ICD 72 (Link)is very clear and is what Judicial Watch's law suit is based upon.
Does not matter who the AG is or if a deputy is appointed or not.

The complication is what the fall out will be if this is actually investigated with the blind eye of justice. Even Trump does not have the stomach for this.

Until someone comes along that does have the intestinal fortitude to put the blindfold back on lady justice it's just another scene in the same play with different characters in different costumes.

Right now justice is not blind and it looks with a discerning eye.


"Fixed fortifications are monuments to mans stupidity" - George S. Patton
April 02, 2017, 12:06 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by lbj:
Shocking unhinged editorial in the LA Times.

http://www.latimes.com/project...dishonest-president/


Just more "fake news".
April 02, 2017, 12:08 PM
smschulz
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I find it more than curious that Trump continues to let him serve as director of the FBI.


If Trump were to fire Comey, what do you think the reaction would be?



We all know Comey needs to go, just not now as the timing would be disastrous.
April 02, 2017, 12:10 PM
JALLEN
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
quote:
Originally posted by JALLEN:
quote:
Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I have asked this question before and will ask again seeing as how you bring him up. I find it more than curious that Trump continues to let him serve as director of the FBI. He is clearly a anti Trumper and pro Clinton and wields enough power to actually unseat Trump.
Why is he still there?

I sent a email to the White House asking for a explanation as to why the administration is resisting the Judicial Watch lawsuit demanding the investigation continue into the Clinton email scandal. The DOJ is lawfully required to pursue this but they have publicly refused to do so and choose to fight it in court.
IMO nothing changes until this does. We are living in a world of temporary executive orders that will change every 4 to 8 years.


If Trump were to fire Comey, what do you think the reaction would be?

Litigation like this is incredibly complicated, and DOJ is not a mere private litigant. There may be institutional, procedural or precedential factors which make it wiser to pursue it this way. Maybe those wheels are already in motion. "Clearly" has become one of the top overused words in our vocabulary.

Is Sessions the right AG? Has he been hobbled by the recusal fiasco?

Have we gotten the Deputy AG confirmed yet?

Worrying about reactions that ultimately results in inaction has always hobbled the GOP and apparently continues to do so.

There is nothing complicated in pursuing the litigation against Clinton. ICD 72 (Link)is very clear and is what Judicial Watch's law suit is based upon.
Does not matter who the AG is or if a deputy is appointed or not.

The complication is what the fall out will be if this is actually investigated with the blind eye of justice. Even Trump does not have the stomach for this.

Until someone comes along that does have the intestinal fortitude to put the blindfold back on lady justice it's just another scene in the same play with different characters in different costumes.

Right now justice is not blind and it looks with a discerning eye.


What a luxury the gift of simplicity must be.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
April 02, 2017, 12:37 PM
entropy
I dunno...honesty and character always seemed like a simple concept for me. Then again I aint no politician...


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April 02, 2017, 12:44 PM
Veeper
quote:
Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
If Flynn has knowledge of anything that might incriminate Trump then he needs to be silenced. If he does manage to testify then Trump should assassinate his character and start branding him as "Flim Flam Flynn the Lieberal."


Nope.




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April 02, 2017, 12:51 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by Carpentermaass84:
If Flynn has knowledge of anything that might incriminate Trump then he needs to be silenced. If he does manage to testify then Trump should assassinate his character and start branding him as "Flim Flam Flynn the Lieberal."
Just cool your jets