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February 25, 2017, 07:34 PM
Ackks
The Trump Presidency
There is no need justify the desperate attempts of the left with a special prosecutor.
February 25, 2017, 09:16 PM
deepocean
No reason unless you care more about getting your name in the news than anything else.
February 25, 2017, 09:22 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
Washington Post hires John Podesta as a contributing columnist.

http://thehill.com/media/32082...podesta-as-columnist
Sure hope they didn't give him an email address on their server...
quote:
Originally posted by stickman428:
Republican politicians have a terrible tendency to be their own worst enemies.
Rampant cowardice and a what's in it for me approach to governing will do that to you.
quote:
Originally posted by Tubetone:
Times are different right now and we don't have the likes of Bob Hope, Johnny Carson, Milton Berle or Danny Kaye anymore.
And why were those comedians people we look favorably upon? Because no matter the comedy attacks, we always knew, because they told us, that they supported the president and wished him well regardless of the party he belonged to or whether they agreed with everything he did. The garbage we refer to as comedians today have little of the character of the people they would view (although I wouldn't) as their peers.


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February 25, 2017, 09:27 PM
Longbow_06
NEWS |

Trump Executive Order May Strike Down Maryland’s Ruling to Ban Semiautomatic Rifles

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* We reached out to the White House for a comment on the EO, but we have not heard a response

We can’t confirm this for sure, but the ruling we covered recently about Maryland’s ban on semiautomatic rifles might be in flux again. Base on what we’ve heard, an executive order may strike down any aforementioned ban.

Here is the executive order reportedly issued by the Trump administration:

DESIGNATION OF MILITIA RIFLES

By the authority vested in me as President and Commander in Chief of the Militia by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, and in order to ensure the ability of citizens of the United States to defend themselves, their communities and their States, as well as to ensure the safety and security of our Nation, I hereby order as follows:

Section 1. Purpose. Both individual and community safety are critically important to the national security of the United States. Terrorism, transnational criminal activity and potential acts of war by foreign nations present a significant threat to national security and our citizens, who have the right and the duty to defend themselves, their communities, their States and the Nation.

Section 2. Policy. It is the policy of the executive branch to:

(a) Support and defend the Constitution, including the Second Amendment right of citizens to keep and bear arms for Militia purposes,as well asself-defense.

(b) Encourage citizens to be prepared to act as members of the Militia to defend communities, States and the Nation, as part of the common defense contemplated by the Constitution of the United States.

(c) Discourage restrictions by States and political subdivisionson individual possession of firearms suitable for Militia purposes by citizens of the United States.

Section 3. Definitions.

(a) “Militia” has the meaning given the term in Title 10, Section 311 of the United States Code to include the Unorganized Militia, as well as the meaning given to the term “Militia” under equivalent State statutes.

(b) “Self-Defense” shall mean the actions of citizens to defend themselves and their families from physical attack.

(c) “Communities” shall mean neighborhoods, towns, cities, counties and other political subdivisions of citizens who live in distinct geographic areas within a State.

(d) “State” shall mean one of the fifty States of the United States.

(e) “Militia Purposes” shall mean training, practice and preparedness which could improve the ability of a citizen to act,and to be armed in case of a need to act, as a current or future member of a local, State or National organization commanded by government officials and responsive to a physical threat. Appropriate organizations include those commanded by an elected county or city Sheriff; those commanded by the Governor of a State through officers of that State’s Defense Force as authorized by Title 30, Section 109 of the United States Code, or through officers of that State’s National Guard;and organizations commanded by the President through officers of the Active or Reserve components of U.S. Armed Forces.

(f) “Militia Rifles” shall mean the firearms designated in Section 4 that are made in America and suitable for use in self-defense, community defense, defense of States and defense of the Nation.

Section 4. Designation of Militia Rifles. That the following firearms and accessories are authorized and appropriate for individual citizens to keep and bear for Militia purposes under the Constitution and the laws of the United States:

(a) The AR-15 and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, magazines of up to thirty round capacities, M-7 bayonets, and ammunition in 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington, in all quantities.

(b) The M1A and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs,magazines of up to twenty round capacities, M-6 bayonets, and ammunition in 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester, in all quantities.

(c) The M1 Garand and similar semi-automatic rifles, to include flash suppressors and bayonet lugs, M-5 bayonets, and ammunition in.30-’06 Springfield, in all quantities.

(d) Bolt action rifles in the calibers of .30-’06 Springfield; 7.62 NATO or .308 Winchester; 5.56 NATO or .223 Remington; or any substantially equivalent caliber, and ammunition appropriate for the rifles, in any quantity.

(This list could easily be expanded.)

Section 5. Pre-emption. This Executive Order is intended to pre-empt the laws of States or political subdivisions that infringe upon the rights of citizens to keep and bear the arms designated in Section 4.

Section 6. Judicial Notice. That the judges of all State and Federal Courts are hereby given notice that possession of the designated Militia Rifles and accessories by citizens should not be restricted or infringed upon by State laws or the laws of a political subdivision of a State and any such law should be reviewed under the strict scrutiny standard to determine whether it is a violation of the Constitution of the United States after judicial consideration of this Order and the fact that it was issued by the Commander in Chief of the Militia.

Donald J. Trump

THE WHITE HOUSE

March __, 2017



PROPOSED EXECUTIVE ORDER DESIGNATES MILITIA RIFLES FOR CITIZEN OWNERSHIP
February 25, 2017, 09:31 PM
c1steve
Those of us in Cali will be saved!
I look forward to more details, as in no bullet button, etc.

It's going to be a great 8 years.

PS: The link shows it to be for 30 round mags, not 20.


-c1steve
February 25, 2017, 09:57 PM
SapperSteel
quote:
Originally posted by Longbow_06:
NEWS |

Trump Executive Order May Strike Down Maryland’s Ruling to Ban Semiautomatic Rifles. . .

PROPOSED EXECUTIVE ORDER DESIGNATES MILITIA RIFLES FOR CITIZEN OWNERSHIP


^^^^^ Where did this come from? Link, please? Never mind, googled it and found the article here: LINK

Wow! Would that this would/could work!


Thanks,

Sap
February 25, 2017, 10:04 PM
Longbow_06
I'm not sure how much sway States Right would come into play.
February 25, 2017, 10:05 PM
deepocean
I hope he does this. God bless our President and God bless the USA!
February 25, 2017, 10:07 PM
jcat
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Originally posted by Longbow_06:
I'm not sure how much sway States Right would come into play.


Does states' preemption have any real power?

Example, I know that RI uses state preemption to ban all NFA. What's to stop any state from just saying 'no, thanks' and continuing the way they do things?


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February 25, 2017, 10:11 PM
Ackks
Is there a more mainstream news site with this story? Wouldn't this be one of the top stories just about everywhere if it were true?
February 25, 2017, 10:16 PM
Longbow_06
Not main stream yet, just this one other.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...ilitia-purposes/amp/
February 25, 2017, 10:23 PM
whanson_wi
Too good to be true. The proposed EO seems to be the idea of a Virginia attorney named Lenden Eakin, not of the White House.


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February 25, 2017, 11:31 PM
PR64
I was so wishing this was true......


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February 26, 2017, 06:42 AM
egregore
I think all this talk of overruling state laws by a simple executive order (which can't be done anyway), repeal of the NFA, etc. is way too much to hope for. A federal pre-emption law, similar to what many states have, might be a worthwhile discussion, but needs its own topic.
February 26, 2017, 09:04 AM
JALLEN
Poorly drafted.

For one thing, an EO ought to cite the source of the specific power which authorizes the President to act.

Among other things, the Executive doesn't put the judges "on notice" or vice versa.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
February 26, 2017, 09:15 AM
BamaJeepster
If the current president was allowed to define these guns as allowable, the next could come in and make virtually all guns unallowable with the stroke of a pen. Not good.



“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams
February 26, 2017, 09:16 AM
Tuckerrnr1


Big Grin


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February 26, 2017, 09:20 AM
Tuckerrnr1
quote:
Originally posted by rh:
But the headline on cnn.com boldly exclaims that this is



Confused ... Wink





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February 26, 2017, 09:24 AM
wishfull thinker
quote:
Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:


Big Grin


just so i understand: 43 crackers?


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February 26, 2017, 10:54 AM
Fla. Jim
So no "foreign" rifles??? No ak's etc??

f) “Militia Rifles” shall mean the firearms designated in Section 4 that are made in America and suitable for use in self-defense, community defense, defense of States and defense of the Nation.