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Originally posted by BigSwede:

Sorry for not clarifying, as PowerSurge said, you can still get at or below cost on the truck itself, plus 0%, just no or little rebate money. You would just have to weigh financing costs at 0% or taking rebates and say 2% normal financing.

Could you give an opinion on the question I asked? Cash vs credit?

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
^^^^ There’s not going to be a diesel in the current or next generation Tundra. So if that’s what you want you need to look at the other truck companies.

A diesel isn't necessary, but would be nice, especially living on the coast. You mention hurricane and gas is gone, diesel is always available. Anywho... where are you getting your info? I honestly gave up a while back in tracking the rumors, but after the search started heavily the last few days I still see rumors of a diesel being an option.

The reasoning behind no diesel is they don’t sell enough to justify the development costs of a diesel configuration against demand. Toyota never broke 200,000 units in one year with the current generation. Next gen Tundra will be the V6 Twin Turbo or V6 Twin Turbo/hybrid configuration.

Of course that doesn’t stop the online magazines from spreading rumors to get clicks.

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Originally posted by Pyker:

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Originally posted by BigSwede:

Sorry for not clarifying, as PowerSurge said, you can still get at or below cost on the truck itself, plus 0%, just no or little rebate money. You would just have to weigh financing costs at 0% or taking rebates and say 2% normal financing.

Could you give an opinion on the question I asked? Cash vs credit?

So many variables to that. For the most part, it's none of their business how you are paying for it while negotiating a deal. There are legit financing rebates sometimes, you can still use them and just pay it off in a couple of months, don't finance any warranties or insurance though

Most of the time financing with the dealer will get you a better deal on the vehicle pricing. Always check with your credit union or bank first for the going interest rates

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Originally posted by Pyker:
Doesn't do much to help cash buyers. We still have to do the dance with the salesman.

Which raises the question: Do dealers prefer cash or credit?

A couple years ago I was going back and forth on an Acura. I wouldn't budge, they wouldn't budge. We were a few hundred different. I'm ready to walk. Then I said, what if I finance. It was zero percent with no prepayment penalty. They took my offer (no change in price). We made two payments and paid it off.

Trick might work for you as well.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
The reasoning behind no diesel is they don’t sell enough to justify the development costs of a diesel configuration against demand. Toyota never broke 200,000 units in one year with the current generation. Next gen Tundra will be the V6 Twin Turbo or V6 Twin Turbo/hybrid configuration.

Of course that doesn’t stop the online magazines from spreading rumors to get clicks.

Again, where is your info coming from? Not doubting it as I've seen similar rumors, just wondering what is true these days.

I always hoped Toyota would release a 3/4 ton version of the Tundra too. Not that I need it, but I just imagine that would be a big player in that market.

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You do realize a brand new, fully redesigned Tundra is set to be released this fall as a 2021 model? Don't think I;d be too quick to pull the trigger on one at this point in time with a brand new truck set to replace the current model.

I usually agree with you on all things automotive....
However, I really prefer to buy the last year of an old body style (at a discount) over the first year of a new body style.
By the end of the run... they usually work out all of the bugs and kinks.

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Originally posted by SR:

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Originally posted by Pyker:
Doesn't do much to help cash buyers. We still have to do the dance with the salesman.

Which raises the question: Do dealers prefer cash or credit?

A couple years ago I was going back and forth on an Acura. I wouldn't budge, they wouldn't budge. We were a few hundred different. I'm ready to walk. Then I said, what if I finance. It was zero percent with no prepayment penalty. They took my offer (no change in price). We made two payments and paid it off.

Trick might work for you as well.

When I was buying an MDX, they flat refused my "I'll give you your e-price if you throw in running boards" offer. Their price was pretty low but I was shocked they wouldn't throw in running boards that probably would have costed them a couple hundred bucks plus an hour of labor. I bought one at a different dealer.

But back to the original post, I can't find 0% on Tundras. Anyone have a link?

https://www.toyotaofcharleston...ls-charleston-sc.htm

From the closest dealership to me. Others I've searched within an hour's drive have the same.

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Originally posted by SR:

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Originally posted by Pyker:
Doesn't do much to help cash buyers. We still have to do the dance with the salesman.

Which raises the question: Do dealers prefer cash or credit?

A couple years ago I was going back and forth on an Acura. I wouldn't budge, they wouldn't budge. We were a few hundred different. I'm ready to walk. Then I said, what if I finance. It was zero percent with no prepayment penalty. They took my offer (no change in price). We made two payments and paid it off.

Trick might work for you as well.

I did the exact same thing with a new Toyota 4Runner not long ago. I financed through the dealer (after seeing in writing that there was no pre-payment penalty), earned an extra $1k off, made one payment, then paid it off.

per OP's "Anybody else shopping?"

yessir, I am/have been for about a month.

Had a 5-unit 'look at & drive' list, that shortened to just 2 main contenders.

I've watched a lot of the yootoob stuff on 'how to not get screwed again' and 'how to avoid paying those extra mark-up charges' etc.

Eliminated a couple of late entries, then discovered a couple of the mid-sized units just waiting to see them released.

The various 'out the door' prices have changed on the same trim level every time I've walked onto the parking lot.

I haven't settled yet the 0%/etc financing question.

The 2 rigs I want to see is the NEW Bronco and the New Dakota 4x4. I honestly had not paid ANY attention to the Dakota (last model 2011) but suddenly discovered FOUR of them locally the other day in my normal daily errands.

I really liked the Ram 1500 but it was just bigger than I need at this point. The Dakota would be about right, if it had the virtues I like. And I still am hesitant about the Ford Ranger 2.3L twin turbo regardless of the promotional materials.

Also the current economic blip may influence my timing.

I meant to include that in my answer too...even with the newer 4Runner, were seriously looking at a new Tacoma...deals are out there, but I’m a little hesitant to pull the trigger with things the way they are. It’s like trying to time the stock market...who knows what will happen.

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Originally posted by Pyker:
Doesn't do much to help cash buyers. We still have to do the dance with the salesman.

Which raises the question: Do dealers prefer cash or credit?

I think dealers prefer credit, which can get you a better deal or open up incentives. Then, you have to make 1-3 payments and can then pay it off.

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Originally posted by MattW:
A diesel isn't necessary, but would be nice, especially living on the coast. You mention hurricane and gas is gone, diesel is always available. Anywho... where are you getting your info? I honestly gave up a while back in tracking the rumors, but after the search started heavily the last few days I still see rumors of a diesel being an option.

Diesel is scarce before hurricanes around here. Also scarce while evacuating for hurricanes. I have a 37 gallon fuel tank and had to dip into my 3 - 5 gallon jugs to get out of Florida for Irma. There wasn't any diesel between Spring Hill and Monticello.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by MattW:
A diesel isn't necessary, but would be nice, especially living on the coast. You mention hurricane and gas is gone, diesel is always available. Anywho... where are you getting your info? I honestly gave up a while back in tracking the rumors, but after the search started heavily the last few days I still see rumors of a diesel being an option.

Diesel is scarce before hurricanes around here. Also scarce while evacuating for hurricanes. I have a 37 gallon fuel tank and had to dip into my 3 - 5 gallon jugs to get out of Florida for Irma. There wasn't any diesel between Spring Hill and Monticello.

That was my experience with responding to Sandy and Irene in the northeast years ago. Here in SC for whatever reason it's different. Gas is gone within 24-36 hours of an impending hit from a hurricane. Diesel has always been available in my time here though.

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Originally posted by Pyker:
Doesn't do much to help cash buyers. We still have to do the dance with the salesman.

Which raises the question: Do dealers prefer cash or credit?

. Always credit, their kickback is a revenue stream for them.

I have been thinking about a new vehicle for a while. I am amazed at 5he quantity of new 2019s on the lots. I am going to look at a 2019 F150 this weekend. The sticker is 45k and they are asking 30k with the 7 year 0% financing. I am not sure I can turn it down.

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The various 'out the door' prices have changed on the same trim level every time I've walked onto the parking lot.

Years back when I was shopping for the wife’s Highlander I found one right before closing on a Friday. I called and said I would be there the minute they opened on Saturday.
I checked the site just prior to leaving the house on Saturday. They had raised the price 5k. I had printed of the price from the night prior.
I ended up paying the lower price out the door and they tinted the windows.
I did have to drive away and say I was going to another dealer (which I was) but they called and said to come back.

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Originally posted by armedprof:
I have been thinking about a new vehicle for a while. I am amazed at 5he quantity of new 2019s on the lots. I am going to look at a 2019 F150 this weekend. The sticker is 45k and they are asking 30k with the 7 year 0% financing. I am not sure I can turn it down.

You’re not kidding we have a dealer here with 71 4wd F150s currently on the lot over half are 2019s and they still have two new 2018s.

Most of them are marked down 11-16k then 0% for 7 years and this dealer offers a lifetime power train warranty.

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Originally posted by MattW:
That was my experience with responding to Sandy and Irene in the northeast years ago. Here in SC for whatever reason it's different. Gas is gone within 24-36 hours of an impending hit from a hurricane. Diesel has always been available in my time here though.

That makes sense in places you can drive inland perpendicular from the coast to get away from a storm. Here we have to head north out of Florida with millions of other folks doing the same thing.

Back on topic, sorry for my thread drift:

We we're looking just before this all started. I'm still looking. The Explorer ST we are interested in is $1,500 less than it was, but no 0% financing deals. I was going to sell stock to buy it, but $1,500 doesn't offset my paper losses in the market.

Dealers aren't impressed with cash. They don't actually finance, another company does. Once you sign they get a check within 30 days. At 0 percent, the vehicle is already priced to pay the cost of the loan. Usually, cash makes little difference to them. Personally, I always use Carmax or used rental sales now, but most don't do trucks. Banks often have repos you can get cheap, too.