I will take the shot as soon as possible. I am 73 and don't want to die of COVID. I was really enjoying my life before all of this hit. We got off a cruise ship (50th anniversary) the 29th of February and have been locked inside since.

I don't want folks going from place to place and continually spreading this disease. Man up and get vaccinated. Do it for your families, friends and the nation.

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Originally posted by maxwayne:

I don't want folks going from place to place and continually spreading this disease. Man up and get vaccinated. Do it for your families, friends and the nation.

Well, we don't always get what we want. Me not getting the vaccine is not stopping anyone from living his life. Ease up on the Covid shaming there, bub. It's unbecoming.

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Me not getting the vaccine is not stopping anyone from living his life. Ease up on the Covid shaming there, bub.

I agree. This should be completely voluntary, an individual choice. No one should be shamed or pressured.

I'm starting to come to the opinion that for older people the pluses from the vaccine may outweigh the risks, but for younger people the opposite may be true. For young, healthy people the (unknown) longer term risks of the vaccine may potentially outweigh the risks from the virus.

But it should be up to the individual to decide.

I would and I will the very first second I have the opportunity to take it.

Having had that stinking virus, I'd do about anything to avoid it again.

Bob

Yes I will get it as soon as I can. I am diabetic and have asthma as well. My immune system is compromised after having the betes for the better part of 30 years. I have zero desire to be in a ventilator...

Yeah. By the time I can get it, it will be well tested.

By definition, Covid-19 is pneumonia: Novel Coronavirus-Infacted Pneumonia (NCIP). You don’t actually die from corona virus, but from pneumonia wrought on by the virus, and other complications. The vaccine for the novel corona virus won’t be available to many (myself included) until the middle of next year. Pneumonia and flu vaccines are available now, and should be used independent of the Covid vaccine. How many have had their flu shot, and a pneumonia vaccine?

I will take the vaccine when it’s available. The irony is that I’ll be busier than hell moving the vaccine for the next six months to a year, hundreds of millions of doses, but won’t have access to it myself.

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I'm starting to come to the opinion that for older people the pluses from the vaccine may outweigh the risks, but for younger people the opposite may be true. For young, healthy people the (unknown) longer term risks of the vaccine may potentially outweigh the risks from the virus.

^^^^^^^^^
That is exactly why the Shingles vaccine is not administered until age 50.

I voted no because I will not take a vaccine until it has been successfully used on at least a couple million people under these circumstances. I will be allowed to get the vaccine early on as a first responder but I will be waiting. I will eventually get the vaccine but I want to see a year worth of follow up studies after at least a couple million people in the US have received the vaccine.

My reasoning behind this position is as follows. If I contract COVID, then statistically I’m going to be fine. I’m only 41, in good health, work out regularly and am pretty physically fit. I prefer not to risk more severe complications from a vaccine that will protect me against a disease that I will survive if I contract. I am in no way anti-vax, in fact I’m essentially the opposite. I even get the flu shot every year, even though I will survive he flu if I contract it. The difference is that hundreds of millions, billions actually, have had the flu vaccine over a period of years and it is clearly proven safe, with minimal to no weird side effects over a very large sample size. So while my gain is fairly minimal, my risk is near zero. I find that the gain from preventing COVID for me at this point in my life is not much greater, but not enough people have had the vaccine to determine what (admittedly most likely extremely rare) side effects will develop from this vaccine that may be able to be improved with larger sample sizes.

I think this vaccine development is excellent news and I absolutely think that those likely to suffer complications from COVID should get it as soon as they can. For those individuals I would think that the benefits outweigh the risk. Heck if COVID had a lethality or complications similar to Ebola then I wouldn’t be able to stick my arm out for the shot fast enough. However, that is not the case with COVID so my risk vs. benefit analysis looks very different.

NO.
Do I believe the numbers of complications coming from the vaccine to be honest? Not any more than I believe the death rate being reported now.
Besides I heard I can wear a mask and will never get sick.
I do not trust our government or there recommendations for what is good for me.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:
By definition, Covid-19 is pneumonia: Novel Coronavirus-Infacted Pneumonia (NCIP). You don’t actually die from corona virus, but from pneumonia wrought on by the virus, and other complications. The vaccine for the novel corona virus won’t be available to many (myself included) until the middle of next year. Pneumonia and flu vaccines are available now, and should be used independent of the Covid vaccine.

The available pneumonia vaccine protects you from bacterial pneumonia. It would do nothing to prevent your lungs from filling with fluid, pus and dead epithelial cells due to Covid. The term "pneumonia" is general and does not specify the causative agent.

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Originally posted by tigereye313:
Nope, still have antibodies as of 12/8. Knowing what I know about this virus and immunology, I am unlikely to get reinfected despite what the media Chicken Littles say.

To this point, here is an article with a substantial section devoted to immunity to C19:

https://www.justfacts.com/news...d-19_essential_facts

Tigereye, thank you for this reference. I am about to go visit family in a different state and have other family coming from yet another state. Both sets are concerned, whereas I am fairly ambivalent. This article citing respected scientific journals and original research will be something I will request they all read so everybody can settle down a little bit.

I had a shock the other day when I was working with someone - they indicated they had had Covid and when I asked whether they had considered donating plasma, they stated they were worried that would decrease their immunity. The shock: they were in the health care field.
I couldn’t even come up with a response right away because I was so surprised that they believed that. We all have a reservoir, or “memory” so to speak. This is what our immune system does. Interesting that they compared it to a “firewall” in the article. I’d never considered that.

Agree completely.

Please read the above referenced article and share. It is probably THE BEST article on the subject I’ve read so far.

Yes -- and the sooner the better. Mrs. Tinyman has many health problems and Doctors recommend it for us both.

And yes -- there may or not be any adverse reactions.

And yes -- it's OUR decision.

Any finally -- have a great holiday of your choice.

I realized many years ago I am not immortal and will eventually die of something. If it's the Covid so be it. I've survived at least a half dozen pandemics worse than this one and I suspect I will survive this one as well without the aid of a vaccine.

My last doctor visit she asked if I had a flu shot to which I responded no. I've never had one and I've never had the flu. Well then let's not mess with a good thing she said.

We have been fed so much bullshit about this virus from the start the truth is nowhere to be found. I will not allow them to stick me with a vaccine for something they have as of yet been able to develop a accurate detection test for. If you can't tell me with any degree of accuracy that I have the virus you are not going to convince me you have a vaccine for it. At this point it is a political football. At best.

I'm not looking to be the first person on my block to get it. But I'll wait a month or two, and if there aren't huge reports of negative reactions, I'll look to get it at that point.

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Originally posted by irreverent:
Tigereye, thank you for this reference.

It was about the least biased, most well documented reference I've found. It allows everyone to see all the data to this point and decide for themselves.

These new mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) aren't like any vaccine that has ever been created. Safety testing doesn't take 5 years for no good reason. Now I understand the speed pressure here. COVID-19 is a threat, to be sure, but it isn't a death sentence.

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Originally posted by maxwayne:
I will take the shot as soon as possible. I am 73 and don't want to die of COVID. I was really enjoying my life before all of this hit. We got off a cruise ship (50th anniversary) the 29th of February and have been locked inside since.

I don't want folks going from place to place and continually spreading this disease. Man up and get vaccinated. Do it for your families, friends and the nation.

Might I suggest you've been far more screwed over by government corruption and their bloodlust for power than by a disease. And forgive me, but from your comments, you seem to have been ingesting too much BS from CNN and other media morons.

Please—?

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Your reasons for yes or no are welcome if you wish to explain them, but please do not use your post as an excuse to cast aspersions on the people with whom you disagree. That includes ascribing supposed motives to people about whom you know nothing and thereby merely demonstrates your willingness to show your own ignorance. That sort of thing has been largely avoided in this thread thus far, but it seems to be something a few members here always have extreme difficulty in exercising the self-discipline to avoid. I realize it may be hard, but try, won't you?