The COVID-19 vaccination thread (thread name changed)
Got my second shot of Moderna yesterday at 9:15 AM. I started to feel badly around 12:00 noon. It went down hill fast from there.
By 5M I hurt all over, fever, chills, terrible headache. Couldn't stay awake. I went to bed at 8:30 AM, and slept poorly. Woke up every hour or so sweating, freezing and very thirsty.
Not much better today.
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February 20, 2021, 05:05 PM
REdwin89
2nd moderna shot today around 12 noon. Nothing yet. From reading above not looking forward to tomorrow!
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February 20, 2021, 07:45 PM
Sigmund
Got Moderna #1 on Wednesday, a painless procedure. Arm was a little sore the next day only.
FWIW, I had it in early Dec, no major symptoms, just VERY tired for a couple weeks.
February 20, 2021, 07:45 PM
Icabod
Got my second dose Monday. The next day I could feet the stick, had joint aches plus fatigue. Wednesday, I was tired. That. Was. It. Honestly, it was a relief to get both doses. My wife and I have a 1 in 20 chance of death should we contact Covid.
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February 20, 2021, 07:54 PM
bald1
I've been inundated with text messages and voicemail from the local hospital system, local/state government agencies, and today the local USAF medical group all saying they have Covid19 vaccines available for me as I am in the >70 yo with significant health issues risk category.
But given that I, as both a military and civilian retiree, rarely leave my house (only for medical appointments) with my neighbors getting groceries, mail, putting out trash, etc. for me, I'm in a very low exposure risk situation.
As such I've opted to hold off getting any inoculation. I may be a tad jaded but I perceive reports of ugly side effects and even deaths are being suppressed. And now mutations, for which these compounds haven't been formulated for, are popping up.
I want a larger long term body of proof of the efficacy of this stuff before I bare my arm.
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February 20, 2021, 08:03 PM
old rugged cross
quote:
Originally posted by Icabod: My wife and I have a 1 in 20 chance of death should we contact Covid.
According to who? no pun intended.
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February 20, 2021, 08:54 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by bald1:
I want a larger long term body of proof of the efficacy of this stuff before I bare my arm.
Your right to bare arms shall not be infringed.
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February 20, 2021, 09:57 PM
fritz
Dad received his second shot early this week. No soreness, sweats, chills, nausea, headaches. Except that he stated, "The damn shot location itched for two days. For two damn days."
I couldn't help but to laugh.
February 20, 2021, 10:21 PM
drill sgt
Both myself and wife have taken 1st and 2nd Pifizer shot(completed about 10 days ago) with absolutely no after effects for me and wife said arm sore for about two days. To each their own decision about taking the shot be you pro or con beliefs. .......What about the flu shot??? Does it keep you from getting the flu. Absolutely not but it just might lessen the physical symptons and duration of illness. Does this possibly carry thru with the covid 19 shot??? Maybe just have to wait and see what works out............................. drill sgtThis message has been edited. Last edited by: drill sgt,
February 20, 2021, 10:27 PM
Jim Shugart
I get my 2nd Moderna jab Monday. Bear in mind that by the end of this month, 500,000+ Americans will have died from this disease.
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February 20, 2021, 11:04 PM
old rugged cross
Sorry Jim you believe that pure bullshit.
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February 20, 2021, 11:26 PM
airbubba
i'll be getting the 2nd phizer shot march 5th.
February 20, 2021, 11:31 PM
Jim Shugart
quote:
Originally posted by old rugged cross: Sorry Jim you believe that pure bullshit.
I'm a retired pharmacist with a masters degree in molecular biology. I've spent several hours every day following the spread of this pandemic and its treatment for over a year now.
With respect, you might want to consider plucking your head out of your ass long enough to look around just a little bit.
This disease is real and the treatments that have been developed for it have been phenomenal.
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February 20, 2021, 11:44 PM
old rugged cross
I never said c19 isn't real and I do not give shit about what do. Obviously if you buy in to the death total spoon feed to you when it is utterly obvious that it is a shame then good for you. But I will call anyone out that wants to espouse bullshit here on this topic. And for the record I do believe people have died as a result of getting sick from c19
Vaccine prevents 98.9% of COVID deaths, Israel’s Health Ministry data shows Officials hail ‘dramatically’ effective Pfizer shots; two weeks after second dose, vaccine also 99.2% protective against serious illness, reduces chance of hospitalization by 98.9%
Israel’s Health Ministry said Saturday that coronavirus vaccines were “dramatically” effective and the latest data shows the shots were 98.9% effective at preventing death caused by COVID-19.
“The vaccine dramatically reduces serious illness and death and you can see this influence in our morbidity statistics,” said Health Ministry Director-General Chezy Levy.
According to the data released by the ministry, the vaccine is also 99.2% protective against serious illness, reduces morbidity by 95.8% and decreases the chance of hospitalization by 98.9%.
The data represents Israelis who have received both doses of the vaccine, 14 days after their second dose, versus people who have not received any inoculation. The data is representative of findings up to February 13, the Health Ministry said.
Israelis walk near a COVID-19 mobile vaccine station on the beach in Tel Aviv, February 20, 2021. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90) So far, 4,250,643 have received at least one dose, while 2,881,825 have received both shots out of the country’s population of about 9 million. Around 3 million Israelis are not currently eligible to be vaccinated, including those younger than 16 and people who have recovered from COVID-19, among others.
While the Health Ministry figures did not specify, Israel has been vaccinating almost exclusively with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
Family members wearing safety gear visit a relative at the coronavirus ward of Shaare Zedek hospital in Jerusalem on February 3, 2021 (Yonatan Sindel/Flash90) The nationwide data is even more optimistic than the results of studies released in recent days by Israel’s HMOs.
A massive study by Israel’s largest health provider released Sunday indicated that the vaccine was 94 percent effective in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, and 92% effective in averting serious cases of the disease.
The Health Ministry findings also follow results nine days ago by the Maccabi HMO, which reported zero deaths among 523,000 people a week or more after their second vaccination shot.
“Thanks to Israel’s strong health system that has allowed us to vaccinate an unprecedented wide percentage of the population, and our epidemiological tracking facilities, we are the first country in the world that can show the effect of the vaccine in the real clinical world,” said Levy.
Now please get the fucking vaccine.
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February 21, 2021, 01:40 AM
konata88
I’m sorry but how do you normalize data between control and test groups for something like this?
And why should we trust this report? These vaccines still sound like a hard sell to me. It’s like sleazy used car salesman pushing a pinto like it’s a Lexus. That’s the feeling I get.
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Vaccine prevents 98.9% of COVID deaths, Israel’s Health Ministry data shows Officials hail ‘dramatically’ effective Pfizer shots; two weeks after second dose, vaccine also 99.2% protective against serious illness, reduces chance of hospitalization by 98.9%
Israel’s Health Ministry said Saturday that coronavirus vaccines were “dramatically” effective and the latest data shows the shots were 98.9% effective at preventing death caused by COVID-19.
“The vaccine dramatically reduces serious illness and death and you can see this influence in our morbidity statistics,” said Health Ministry Director-General Chezy Levy.
According to the data released by the ministry, the vaccine is also 99.2% protective against serious illness, reduces morbidity by 95.8% and decreases the chance of hospitalization by 98.9%.
The data represents Israelis who have received both doses of the vaccine, 14 days after their second dose, versus people who have not received any inoculation. The data is representative of findings up to February 13, the Health Ministry said.
Israelis walk near a COVID-19 mobile vaccine station on the beach in Tel Aviv, February 20, 2021. (Tomer Neuberg/Flash90) So far, 4,250,643 have received at least one dose, while 2,881,825 have received both shots out of the country’s population of about 9 million. Around 3 million Israelis are not currently eligible to be vaccinated, including those younger than 16 and people who have recovered from COVID-19, among others.
While the Health Ministry figures did not specify, Israel has been vaccinating almost exclusively with the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
Family members wearing safety gear visit a relative at the coronavirus ward of Shaare Zedek hospital in Jerusalem on February 3, 2021 (Yonatan Sindel/Flash90) The nationwide data is even more optimistic than the results of studies released in recent days by Israel’s HMOs.
A massive study by Israel’s largest health provider released Sunday indicated that the vaccine was 94 percent effective in preventing symptomatic COVID-19, and 92% effective in averting serious cases of the disease.
The Health Ministry findings also follow results nine days ago by the Maccabi HMO, which reported zero deaths among 523,000 people a week or more after their second vaccination shot.
“Thanks to Israel’s strong health system that has allowed us to vaccinate an unprecedented wide percentage of the population, and our epidemiological tracking facilities, we are the first country in the world that can show the effect of the vaccine in the real clinical world,” said Levy.
Now please get the fucking vaccine.
If you add up all the numbers supplied in this report including the 3 million ineligible to receive a vaccine, 10,132,468 people are cited out of a population of 9,000,000. (?)
If the vaccine is this effective then Israel should be out of lockdown and masks and the virus virtually eliminated.
Has this happened?
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February 21, 2021, 06:28 AM
Aquilon
quote:
Originally posted by bald1: I may be a tad jaded but I perceive reports of ugly side effects and even deaths are being suppressed.
I'm not questioning your decision for what you think is best for you personally. But this article contains some data for reported adverse events on the vaccines. 113 deaths reported out of 13.7 million doses administered. (That's correlation, NOT causation). I do think the numbers of people suffering side effects is probably artificially low, because a lot of people aren't going to bother reporting.
So now the frightened sheep are joining the wolf and demanding that all get the experimental treatment for the greater good.
They are going to unleash all the tools in their box to try to make it happen.
Sounding more like there is a ton of the "poke" laying around with no one willing to take it.
Hence, "now please get the fucking vaccine" pressure being applied.
Two words. "screw you!"
And by the way. I know it is hard for you to understand. But I respect your decision to get it.
And no, I am not anti vaccine. But at this stage, with this thing (everything) I am not in the "now please get the fucking vaccine" camp. A long way's from it. Ymmv.
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February 21, 2021, 09:45 AM
Graniteguy
quote:
Originally posted by Jim Shugart: I get my 2nd Moderna jab Monday. Bear in mind that by the end of this month, 500,000+ Americans will have died from this disease.
That's how many American's die annually of obesity related illness. I don't see anyone mandating healthy diets and fitness activity.
