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Of all the smells associated with animals, only intrauterine rotting calf in July ranks worse for my senses than a hog farm.

I'd bus tables at Shoney's (again) before I'd work on a hog farm.


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No. Your property ends at your property line. You don't get to create a nuisance beyond it, whether you were there first or not. The stench of a pig manure lagoon is unquestionably a nuisance.

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One would think it simple- which was there first, the fields and farm, or the suing neighbors...

I agree farms are a nuisance. Ban all farms. Most of us could stand to lose a few pounds anyway.




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Originally posted by BBMW:
No. Your property ends at your property line. You don't get to create a nuisance beyond it, whether you were there first or not. The stench of a pig manure lagoon is unquestionably a nuisance.

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One would think it simple- which was there first, the fields and farm, or the suing neighbors...


By that same logic, you could never have an outdoor firing range. Or an airport. Or a water treatment plant. Even livestock farms. No, people go to lengths to place these away from development. But people will want to buy the land cheap (due to the nuisance) and then sue to shut down the nuisance.

Case in point. Many years ago I lived in a somewhat rural area. Joined a skeet club that was kind of remote. There was a small strip of low cost houses built along one side. That development was put there a couple decades after the range was there. But the range had an injunction against them that prevented them from filing noise complaints. Seems it was a pretty naked grab by the developer who had hoped at one point to buy the range on the cheap if he could shut it down. He'd hoped the owners of the low cost homes would do his dirty work and harass the range with constant noise complaints. We had several state judges who were members, so that didn't work out.

Saw the exact thing happen at a private airport. When the airport was built, it was in the middle of nowhere. Then urban sprawl meant the land was now more valuable and developers tried the same thing to shut the airport down and pick up the land on the cheap.


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When the airport was built, it was in the middle of nowhere. Then urban sprawl meant the land was now more valuable and developers tried the same thing to shut the airport down and pick up the land on the cheap.


Being in the military for two-plus decades I saw this happen almost everywhere I was stationed. Most US bases/forts were built prior to WWII far from civilization. Fast forward to 2018 and we have Fighter jets and artillery being used at those bases. The idiots that bought cheap housing NEXT to the bases/forts then have the ignorant nerve to get upset when they learn that jets and artillery are used by the military. SMFH.
 
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I know their pain.
Lived here since 1972.

About 6 years ago, they built 3 hog farms withing 2 miles of us. They spray the fields with the crap every so often and it is very hard to spend more than 1 minute outside then, no open windows.

About 1982 they built a small grain elevator behind and a lot west of my house.
This spring and summer they added 4 large grain elevators and trucks go in and out with each wheat cutting and whenever they buy or sell, wheat corn or soy beans.
I would bet I could not get much out of my house now. We now have no privacy in our back yard.

If they would just buy my house at market value I would be happy.
The guy next to me, whose property is directly in front of the new elevators and the new scales, moved out last week. Not sure what is going on, no for sale sign or anything??


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Either you own the land or you don't.

If the land was so cheap way back when, maybe the owners of the adjoining properties who wanted to make use of their land for something that would cause a nuisance factor should have paid the owner to put a covenant in the deed that would allow them to do that, and not just assume they could do it in perpetuity.

As far as the pig farms go, they generate a huge amount of noxious waste that they want to dispose of for no cost. If sure there is equipment they could buy that could process the waste and contain the smell. But that would cost money, maybe they'd have to get fifty cents more a pound for the hogs when they sell them. But the big processor who buys them (and who, in point of fact really runs the operation), doesn't want to pay for that. Sorry, but too damn bad. And, apparently, the law agrees, at least in the case that started this thread.

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quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
No. Your property ends at your property line. You don't get to create a nuisance beyond it, whether you were there first or not. The stench of a pig manure lagoon is unquestionably a nuisance.

quote:
Originally posted by MooneyP226:
One would think it simple- which was there first, the fields and farm, or the suing neighbors...


By that same logic, you could never have an outdoor firing range. Or an airport. Or a water treatment plant. Even livestock farms. No, people go to lengths to place these away from development. But people will want to buy the land cheap (due to the nuisance) and then sue to shut down the nuisance.

Case in point. Many years ago I lived in a somewhat rural area. Joined a skeet club that was kind of remote. There was a small strip of low cost houses built along one side. That development was put there a couple decades after the range was there. But the range had an injunction against them that prevented them from filing noise complaints. Seems it was a pretty naked grab by the developer who had hoped at one point to buy the range on the cheap if he could shut it down. He'd hoped the owners of the low cost homes would do his dirty work and harass the range with constant noise complaints. We had several state judges who were members, so that didn't work out.

Saw the exact thing happen at a private airport. When the airport was built, it was in the middle of nowhere. Then urban sprawl meant the land was now more valuable and developers tried the same thing to shut the airport down and pick up the land on the cheap.
 
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Naturally they sued Smithfield instead of their neighbor the farmer.

Let the Chinese billionaire pay.


I forgot...they are a Chinese Owned company..

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smithfield_Foods


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Anyone with half a brain researches airports to find out airplanes go there before they buy next to an airport. Same goes with farming operations. Amazingly, I grew up next to dairy farms, and some how we managed to understand farming and not sue everybody for the ghetto lottery.

In California, there is a required required disclosure of an airport for houses impacted. Some less than ethical realtors have been known to mention the relevant airport and then say, “But it is closing soon.” even when that is a bald faced lie.

Fortunately, our local field has aviation easements on houses built within a certain vicinity. You are welcome to call the tower and complain should you witness an airplane doing something that seems dangerous or obnoxious, but that is the extent of your remedy. If you don’t like that, don’t buy the house.
 
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