Go | New | Find | Notify | Tools | Reply |
Member |
Police confiscated musket, after discharge during a practice. Utterly ridiculous. https://www.boston.com/news/lo.../?p1=hp_featurestack | ||
|
Shall Not Be Infringed |
Just without the Muskets... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Save America! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
|
Don't Panic |
Hmmmm... maybe this bit from the linked article might give a bit more background...
As might this, a bit later in the article...
| |||
|
Official Space Nerd |
Seems to me it is almost impossible for a musket (ESPECIALLY in a museum) to 'just go off.' It looks like somebody was either GROSSLY negligent or loaded the gun on purpose. Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
|
Staring back from the abyss |
Where's Baldwin? ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
|
Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
If a period firearm, it is possible that the gun was loaded in the 18th century, placed in storage, where it has sat since, until some unlucky renactor didn't make certain it was unloaded using a ramrod or suitable device. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
|
Fighting the good fight |
Thanks Joel. "OMG!! The gubbermints took their guns!!! It was just a reenactment!!!1" is very different from "Man has musket confiscated after negligently discharging it inside a museum."
It was a not a period firearm held by the museum. It was a reenactor's personally owned musket. The reenactors were not affiliated with the museum. They had been given permission to hold drill practice there. The drill practice was supposed to be held outside, and they weren't supposed to have any live ammunition. | |||
|
Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Then the reenactor is an idiotic, irresponsible, negligent twatwaffle. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
|
Fighting the good fight |
Besides, I doubt that loose Revolutionary War-era gunpowder that had been sitting inside a musket barrel and flash pan for nearly 250 years would have been able to ignite anyway. | |||
|
Coin Sniper |
Clearly this needs to be thoroughly investigated. It was likely lucky that this happened as it did. Imagine if this musket, loaded with a live round, made it on the reenactment field and was fired at a 'enemy soldier'? This is more than just having a loaded musket and forgetting it had a round in it and taking it to a meeting. This is a Revolutionary War group so this is a flintlock musket. That means there had to be a flint in the lock and powder in the pan. Who allows a musket in a building with out checking the pan and barrel first? Honestly, how hard is it to have everyone who brings a musket or piston into the building to open the pan and drop the ramrod down the barrel? Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
|
would not care to elaborate |
Not enough info. I'd like to talk to the guy who did it. | |||
|
Striker in waiting |
I disagree. In the law, we use a phrase - res ipsa loquitur - literally, "the thing speaks for itself". It's a standard of negligence that requires only circumstantial evidence. Relevant here are the first two of three prongs - that whatever happened typically wouldn't without negligence, and that the cause of the negligence was solely in control of the defendant. Call it an accidental discharge, a negligent discharge, or whatever. But either way, the guy holding the weapon didn't make it safe before playing with it. It went off. Therefore, he was negligent. Feel free to hypothesize some reasonable facts that would change that logic. -Rob I predict that there will be many suggestions and statements about the law made here, and some of them will be spectacularly wrong. - jhe888 A=A | |||
|
Member |
Yea this doesn’t seem like you need SCOTUS to portion out blame. What a knob. | |||
|
Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
I once witnessed a re-enactment group "execute" a guy by firing squad. They put him up against a wall and 6-10 of them took aim at about 10-15 yards and fired. It made me very uncomfortable, and I didn't like it at all. All it takes is one dude screwing up his load or one guy getting a foreign object down the bore and now we've got a dead dude to deal with. GarandThumb had an interesting video sometime in the past year about wound ballistics from black powder muskets...pretty devastating stuff ! | |||
|
would not care to elaborate |
Whose firearm was it? | |||
|
Member |
Who gives a shit? If I hand you a gun are you going to verify it’s unloaded or just trust me? | |||
|
would not care to elaborate |
FYI, a muzzle loader that is charged but not primed or capped is not considered loaded, at least in my state. The lack of curiosity as to the facts, especially by one purported to be an attorney, is interesting. | |||
|
Coin Sniper |
A muzzle loader that is not primed or capped cannot fire. This one fired. It is logical that it was in fact capped or primed (likely as it was pre civil war era). The fact that it discharged proves this. The question is how and why was it primed/capped AND loaded inside a building and who was responsible to make sure weapons capable of firing were not present? 1. Weapon owner 2. Group leader 3. Facility director 4 __________ If any of the 3-4 above would have taken a simple step this would not have happened. Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
|
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should |
Was Alec Baldwin anywhere on the property? ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
|
Legalize the Constitution |
Loaded, the pan charged, and the hammer in cocked position. This guy needs to become the regimental drummer. _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
|
Powered by Social Strata | Page 1 2 3 |
Please Wait. Your request is being processed... |