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Oriental Redneck |
This is turning out better than I expected. A lot of interesting views. Man, I was so focused on the term limits that my tunnel vision prevented me from considering other stuff.  Q | |||
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| Stupid Allergy  |
Instead of "Shall not be infringed", they could have written "never, ever, under any circumstances be infringed". You know, just for extra clarification. "Attack life, it's going to kill you anyway." Steve McQueen... | |||
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Baroque Bloke |
“English shall be the official language of the United States.” And: “If the President and Congress cannot agree on a budget, the new budget shall be the previous year’s budget, with all spending items, except debt service, reduced by one percent.” Agreement would be quickly reached. Serious about crackers | |||
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
It's important to have some consistency, some "stability" in law that citizens can learn and rely on, and so while I'm not in complete agreement I do agree with something along that same vein. Locally, I refuse to support any tax that doesn't include a "sunset provision". How about a Constitutional provision that requires that any bill proposed by Congress that imposes a tax, or a tax increase, or any governmental spending, also include a sunset provision with a specified date?
While it probably wasn't as big an issue when the Founding Fathers were debating the Constitution, I am in complete agreement, and was just about to edit my post to include this very thing. In fact, I'd support a Constitutional provision that established some sort of basic reading/writing/comprehension for both citizens and legal immigrants trying to become citizens. | |||
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Ammoholic |
I like your two amendments. I'd like to add a third regarding election spending. All money must originate from whatever state it is spent in. If you are not a resident of that state you may not contribute to any officials for local, state, or congressional positions. No interstate PACs. Businesses must have operations in the state they are contributing and are limited to contributing to no more than three state level or congressional campaigns in any give year. The fact that someone in California or New York can contribute money in my state to attempt to impose their will on me pisses me off. It skews the balance of power to richer states. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| Music's over turn out the lights  |
Yes sir, the new budget would take about a week. David W. Rather fail with honor than succeed by fraud. -Sophocles | |||
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Shorted to Atmosphere |
Not offended at all. That's why I said, just think if. I realize there were different strongly held beliefs at the time, and that compromises had to be made. And yes I do see it as hypocrisy, as most were of strong Christian faiths. As such, one man owning another man just does not adhere to the teachings of Jesus. My contention is that if they could have compromised in the other direction, our country will have been spared so much hatred, strife and ongoing animosity. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
This is a great thread! I agree with practically everything posted so far. Term limit all the damn legislators... absolutely!
Yes, you've gotta have skin in the game to vote! The Founders originally wanted property owners, but that was before the income tax. Now, I think taxpayer would be the equivalent.
Yes! .
I agree. The Founders didn't foresee the "progressive era" beginning around 1900 and culminating in the Federal Reserve Act, the 16th and 17th amendments in 1913, all of which should be repealed. This will be controversial, but I would even repeal the 19th amendment if I could. Not all women, of course, but the majority of women tend to vote with their emotions. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Member |
I am a fan of the landowner requirement to vote. Paying income taxes might be an acceptable additional or substitute requirement. | |||
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Member |
Specifically state that any State could withdraw from the Union compact (Constitution), with no ramifications nor hard feelings, and said withdrawn State would be accepted as an equal foreign nation among the sister of foreign nations. Whether the United States would have existed for more than 25 years, much less until 1860, is a subject for a “Alternative/Counter-factual History” books by Harry Turtledove.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 2BobTanner, --------------------- DJT-45/47 MAGA !!!!! "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on, or by imbeciles who really mean it." — Mark Twain “Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.” — H. L. Mencken | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
Agreed, and you would need to pay NET taxes, not just point to your W-2 but then get more back in a refund than you paid in taxes... because then you didn't really pay any taxes. | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado  |
You need to add "carry". And I would have wanted them to include in the wording of the Constitution exactly what they meant by "natural born citizen".... flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes  |
1. Term limits 2. Only contributing members of society should be allowed to vote. If you receive more from the government (other people's money) than you pay in, you should not have the right to vote. Money is the root of evil. Politicians with unlimited term limits can more easily sell their influence, becoming rich while bringing corruption into government service. Voters that do not pay taxes and receive benefits will readily vote themselves more of other people's money. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Food for thought: Men died for centuries to secure their/our right to vote, and not be ruled by a monarchy. Men then gave that same right to women, simply because they asked. "Ninja kick the damn rabbit" | |||
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W07VH5 |
Yes, I should add "carry". | |||
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Wait, what? |
Term limits, and nobody that is not a bonafide citizen that contributes to the country (ie- has a job, pays taxes, swears allegiance to the country) can be allowed to vote in any election. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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| Muzzle flash aficionado |
That needs to be very carefully worded. I am retired and receive a military pension and Social Security, both of which come out of taxes, but were benefits that I earned by former service and employment. I also pay a considerable amount of federal taxes each year, but not more than my combined benefits. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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| Be not wise in thine own eyes |
Oh I agree Flashguy, but I think all here know the intent I was trying to convey. Working age, abled body, past contributions, and I am sure more exceptions would apply. “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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| Member |
Term limits. Once they get in, they never want to leave and it seems the focus is on staying in office rather than serving their constituents and country. Political Action Committees and all the other assorted special interest lobby groups. Foreign $$ and foreign interference with our election process. Like guns, Love Sigs | |||
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| Member |
I would like to have seen something like this in the constitution. " Any politician that proposes legislation with the intent to disarm a citizen or infringe in any way upon the citizens right to obtain, possess and carry the firearms of their choice shall be found guilty of treason and summarily executed within a fortnight. " No one's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session.- Mark Twain | |||
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