“Unions flexed their muscles in the state after facing setbacks over the past decade that resonated nationally.”

https://www.politico.com/news/...to-work-law-00088762

I can't wait to retire and get out of this shithole.

How sad for my home state

Michigan was my home 1942-1960. Left there in 1960 and have only visited relatives since. I believe this is a bad move by the state.

flashguy

I believe I saw a poll that said 68% of people here liked right to work. I hope they show up at the poles.

The last two election cycles the dems have used issues to get their people to the polls. This may be something to use next time around. They only have a two person lead in both houses.

I know that we are getting a bad wrap, but other than the downstate cities, Marquette County, and Grand Traverse County this is a solid R place. My county went for Trump by 60%.

Having said all that if I did not have my property that I worked all my life to get we would be looking to leave.


Jim

I absolutely detest unions. This is one of many examples of why I do.

Mind you: I don't mind the concept of unions at all (*). It's their near-universally thuggish behavior, their protecting members undeserving of being paid by their employers, and the rampant corruption that has earned them my disgust.

(*) In private business. Unions have no place at all in the government/public sector, IMO.

I was born and raised in Michigan, 1950-1969. I left when I joined the Navy and haven't been back other than to visit family since.

ZERO desire to live in a pretty state that has been turned into a shithole buy the Usual Suspects.

What Pal said.

Granted what happened with Right to Work is not a good thing in itself. The first state to ever over turn it if I understand correctly.

The more important take away is that this is what happens when 1 party controls the entirety of government. Governor, House & Senate, and DA offices/most courts. This is never a good situation, especially in this climate.

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Originally posted by Pal:
I believe I saw a poll that said 68% of people here liked right to work. I hope they show up at the poles.

The last two election cycles the dems have used issues to get their people to the polls. This may be something to use next time around. They only have a two person lead in both houses.

I know that we are getting a bad wrap, but other than the downstate cities, Marquette County, and Grand Traverse County this is a solid R place. My county went for Trump by 60%.

Having said all that if I did not have my property that I worked all my life to get we would be looking to leave.


Jim

As a lifelong resident, going on 72 years, I have come to the conclusion that voting no longer matters in Michigan. I think the democrat machine has full control of elections regardless of how people vote.

Unfortunately I had to agree. Our last election was certified at lightening speed even though there were clear trouble spots.

Michigan is a one-party state controlled top to bottom by the left edge of the Democratic party. Fits into that whacko chuck of California, Oregon and Washington. The unions funnel cash that the far left uses to cram their agenda into the mush-brained populous. Let's watch them economically sink deeper into the welfare state of hopelessness. Only one thing to make the hard-left change and that's severe economic distress.

No offence to Michiganites, it's a beautiful state for the most part. Hard to beat the outdoor beauty and available activities. Their politics suck. If I had to point to a state that would reject right to work it would be Michigan and maybe Illinois.

Hands on workers are the backbone of our country and Union loyalty is strong. But it seems to have gone too fare.

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Originally posted by gjgalligan:
As a lifelong resident, going on 72 years, I have come to the conclusion that voting no longer matters in Michigan. I think the democrat machine has full control of elections regardless of how people vote.

Sadly, I, too, suspect this may well be the case.

I haven't quite got to the point of cancelling my voter registration card, but, it's damn >< close.

My wife and I have already started drawing up a list of states we may find mutually agreeable to which to relocate.

TBH: I never would've believed I'd see the day

I love living in Northern MI even though Traverse City and Marquette have gone full libtard. But, short of seceding from the land south of M-20 (not gonna happen) Iowa and Alabama are looking better and better. Florida seems to have it together but it's way too people-y for me.

Anyone have any suggestions as to good places to live in Iowa?

River City? (Well, it's a fake place.)

flashguy

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Originally posted by AITG:

Florida seems to have it together but it's way too people-y for me.

There's a lot of Florida that is not really "people-y." In the 38 years that I have lived here, I have flown over just about all of the state. Looking down, I have seen huge areas that are sparsely populated.

True, any place that is within twenty or thirty minutes of a major highway is likely to be people-y, either now or in the not so distant future, but get away from the big roads and you'll find plenty of rural areas that are not likely to become densely populated in your lifetime.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by AITG:

Florida seems to have it together but it's way too people-y for me.

There's a lot of Florida that is not really "people-y."

True. DW and I enjoy the panhandle a lot. When people we know ask where we go, I tell them "the Redneck part of FL". That's not an insult: I consider myself a Redneck. As a group, our local Rednecks work hard, protect their families and will gladly help one another at any time. My time at the Sheriffs' office gave me an appreciation of the culture.

Here's my wife's and my initial thoughts:

For the purposes of this discussion the primary questions are how reliably "red," gun rights, and climate. Would be looking for far-suburban to semi-rural with reasonably close/convenient access to services (i.e.: medical) and stores.

Florida: Too hot & humid. Hurricanes. Wife already strongly vetoed.
Texas: Too hot & dry
Essentially the entire AZ through the Carolinas line & south is out for heat and/or humidity.

The entire northeast is entirely out of the question, as is the entire west coast.

The plains states are unattractive due to extreme tornado activity.

Northern Midwest states are probably non-starters. Too cold. Too much winter.

Looks like we're down to Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Tennessee. Possibly Wyoming and South Dakota?

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Looks like we're down to Indiana, Kentucky, West Virginia, and Tennessee. Possibly Wyoming and South Dakota?

Of those, Tennessee, head east into the mountains, no state income tax, lower cost of living, plenty of things to see and do, this is our plan if we leave FL due to over populationization LOL.

Then again I'd have to move two daughters, two grand kids, and my 85 year old father.... Gonna need a big farm.... One where I won't be able to see them from the front porch...