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March 17, 2017, 12:37 PM
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2017 Tacoma is Worst Midsize Truck?
Consumer Reports compiled a lowest rated 2017 models top 10 list and the Taco was named as the worst midsize truck.

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March 17, 2017, 01:01 PM
italia
I always thought consumer reports should just stick to toasters and vacuum cleaners, and leave other things to people who specialize in those products like automobiles, audio equipment, etc.


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March 17, 2017, 01:10 PM
FenderBender
the Taco is badly in need of an update.


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March 17, 2017, 01:11 PM
corsair
They're trying to maintain themselves as a serious, consumer advocacy magazine yet, they thought it was a good idea to put an ogre with a nose ring on the screen?

As for the Taco....low consumer satisfaction and reliability? We're talking about a Tacoma...the successor to the original SR5, the Hilux for overseas users, the truck Top Gear couldn't kill. I know things have changed with Toyota but, they're not exactly bottom of the barrel here.
March 17, 2017, 01:12 PM
mcrimm
Like a 'Yogi-ism'

They're so bad, you can't find one on a dealers lot.

We tried.

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March 17, 2017, 01:34 PM
MikeGLI
Bullshit.
Bull.fucking.shit.




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March 17, 2017, 01:38 PM
Warhorse
quote:
2017 Tacoma is Worst Midsize Truck?

Midsize?

Seems more like a compact size to me.


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March 17, 2017, 01:42 PM
saigonsmuggler
The two faults I see with the Tacoma are the C frame and rear drum brakes. UGH!

Cannot believe in 2017 Toyota still uses drums on a 4x4. I had absolutely horrible experience off-roading in mud/water with drum brakes. Mud got in, scored the internal surfaces and eventually everything rusted and caused stuck drums, even after multiple disassemblies for cleaning.
March 17, 2017, 01:52 PM
BBMW
Didn't it just get an update?

Also, I get the feeling they don't like trucks that are really trucks. The Ridgeline was their best compact pickup. It's also the most carlike pickup you'll find (currently made.) I think that points to what they like.

quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
the Taco is badly in need of an update.

March 17, 2017, 01:57 PM
flesheatingvirus
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
Didn't it just get an update?

quote:
Originally posted by FenderBender:
the Taco is badly in need of an update.


Depends what you consider an update. I have the first run of the 3rd gen Taco, a 2016.

For what it's worth, I love it and would be hard pressed to be convinced that it comes in at the bottom of the pack. The video cited "poor reliability (HA!), stiff ride, clumsy handling, and 'can' be loud".

Serious horse shit right there. I haven't noticed any handling issues, and many Taco owners spend money to TRY to make their truck louder. Roll Eyes I would also not call it a "small" truck any more. The gen 1's, sure. Not these.


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March 17, 2017, 01:58 PM
ArtieS
I've looked at the Tacoma three times, and each time decided not to buy. I found them cramped, with poor internal design, just ok handling, and very expensive for what they are.

I like and respect Toyotas, and they have a pretty good off road reputation, but I think the Tacoma is living on its reputation at the moment, not on it's current quality, capability or innovation.

As was said above, it needs an update.



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March 17, 2017, 02:00 PM
cmparrish
I have a 2017. Definitely not at the bottom of the pack. CR is totally full of shit on this one. I've lost what little respect I had for them.

It has grown up to be a midsized truck now. it's surprisingly roomy inside.
March 17, 2017, 02:02 PM
P250UA5
My brother-in-law has a '16 Taco TRD Sport ext cab & a coworker has a '16 Colorado LT Midnight Edition.

Having driven & been in both, I'd give a slight comfort edge to the Colorado.
Both trucks are nice, though.

As far as the 'stiff ride & loud' comments. It's a truck, not a Cadillac.
My F150 isn't loud, but does drive like a truck over rough pavement. But, it's smoother than my Civic was.




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March 17, 2017, 02:03 PM
YellowJacket
quote:
Originally posted by corsair:
They're trying to maintain themselves as a serious, consumer advocacy magazine yet, they thought it was a good idea to put an ogre with a nose ring on the screen?

As for the Taco....low consumer satisfaction and reliability? We're talking about a Tacoma...the successor to the original SR5, the Hilux for overseas users, the truck Top Gear couldn't kill. I know things have changed with Toyota but, they're not exactly bottom of the barrel here.

So she's not a trustable source of information because of her appearance? Interesting...

I think Consumer Reports mostly just compiles data and reports it. So if their data shows that people were unhappy with their Tacoma, or that they were spending a lot to repair them often, their report will show that.



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March 17, 2017, 02:12 PM
mod29
I really like my 2004 Tacoma, 3.4 V-6, auto, TRD 4x4 extracab. It was the last year they made a compact truck.

2005 and on the Tacoma became a mid-size.

I wish Toyota would bring back the compact truck.

As far as the current Tacomas, I've only sat in them at the dealer while getting my truck worked on.

I was not blown away. Nice truck and all, but I prefer the ergonomics on my older truck.

I have also read of problems with the auto trans shifting up and down excessively, hunting for the right gear. The 3.5 liter engine is happiest when coupled with the 6-speed manual, from what I have read on the taco forums.
March 17, 2017, 02:14 PM
bigdeal
quote:
"With its below average customer satisfaction score..."
This made me laugh. Try and find a used Tacoma for anywhere near a reasonable price. Their owners are almost rabid about them and hold onto them for long periods of time.

I haven't read anything Consumer Reports has put out in years, but if this is the best they can do, then I'm glad I haven't wasted time with their 'reviews'.


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March 17, 2017, 02:16 PM
YellowJacket
quote:
Originally posted by bigdeal:
quote:
"With its below average customer satisfaction score..."
This made me laugh. Try and find a used Tacoma for anywhere near a reasonable price. Their owners are almost rabid about them and hold onto them for long periods of time.

I haven't read anything Consumer Reports has put out in years, but if this is the best they can do, then I'm glad I haven't wasted time with their 'reviews'.

could be people don't list them for "a reasonable price" because they paid too much for them when they were new and don't want to take the loss.

but this report is also taking specifically about the 2017 model.



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March 17, 2017, 02:27 PM
MikeGLI
quote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:

As was said above, it needs an update.


Agreed. I'm getting out of my 1st gen Taco and in to a 4Runner. I didn't see enough of a change from the 2nd Gen and feel like the current new models are really a 2.5Gen vs 3rd gen. I still think this article is bullshit.




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March 17, 2017, 02:28 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by YellowJacket:
Could be people don't list them for "a reasonable price" because they paid too much for them when they were new and don't want to take the loss.
People pay closer to MSRP than with other vehicles, but its because of the demand for the truck. We shopped for three months looking for a pre-owned Tacoma for my elderly father. Eventually, it made more sense to just buy him a new one given we found few used ones to even look at, and the ones we did find were close to new pricing anyway. Shop for a Tacoma and read their forums, and you'll find that Consumer Reports review misses the mark by a mile.
quote:
but this report is also taking specifically about the 2017 model.
I have two co-workers would bought 2017's and they absolutely love them. Again, I think this is more a reviewer issue than a bad product issue.


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March 17, 2017, 02:32 PM
arfmel
Consumer Reports always docks points off a truck, just for being truck-like. If you want a car, buy a car.