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Originally posted by zoom6zoom:
Mak and cheese.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:

I love just about any cheese, except Limburger. Might like that too, if I could get past its smell.

Back when McSorley's was a "men only" pub, we used to meet after work on Friday. A buck and a half would get you a large platter of pumpernickel bread, butter, limburger cheese, and onion slices. Mugs of ale were two for thirty-five cents.

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Originally posted by r2mach1:
WTF took you so long?!?!?!

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What’s More Presidential Than a Gift of Big Cheese?
February 23, 2015

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This wheel of smoked gouda on display at La Fromagerie Cheese & Wine Bistro in Alexandria, VA, is not nearly as big as Jefferson's gift.
Photograph by Angie McPherson, National Geographic
American presidents are traditionally associated with Air Force One, the State of the Union, “Hail to the Chief,” and the West Wing. Historically, however, they’ve also been paired with – yes, really – large wheels of cheese.

The tradition began in 1802, when President Thomas Jefferson was given a gift of a giant cheese from the citizens of Cheshire, Mass. The cheese was the idea of Baptist Elder John Leland, a Jefferson supporter in the fraught election of 1800 in which Jefferson (a Republican) defeated John Adams (a Federalist).

It was made from the milk of 900 impeccably Republican cows and pressed in an outsized cider press. When finished, it measured four feet across and 17 inches high, and weighed, once cured, 1,235 pounds.

Engraved with the patriotic motto “Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God,” the cheese was shipped to Washington via sleigh (hauled by six oxen), sloop, and wagon.

It arrived on Dec. 29, 1801, and Leland himself was on hand to present it, pointing out – somewhat uncomfortably to slave-owning Jefferson – that the cheese “was produced by the personal labor of freeborn farmers and with the voluntary and cheerful aid of their wives and daughters, without the assistance of a single slave.”

The gargantuan Jeffersonian cheese was the first object to which the word “mammoth” was applied as an adjective. The first complete mammoth skeletons had recently been excavated from a marl pit near Newburgh, New York, and were on display in Charles Willson Peale’s Philadelphia Museum – where they so caught the public’s fancy that the word “mammoth” was soon used to describe anything of remarkable scope or size. A Washington, D.C., resident, after gulping down 42 eggs in ten minutes, proclaimed himself a Mammoth Eater; a New York gardener grew a 20-pound Mammoth Radish; and the U.S. Navy, inspired by Jefferson’s Mammoth Cheese, produced a matching Mammoth Loaf of bread, baked using an entire barrel of flour. (Subsequent studies showed that Peale’s mammoths were actually mastodons, but by then the word had stuck.)

The mammoth cheese was stashed in the East Room of the White House – promptly dubbed the “mammoth room” – where it awed visitors and inspired poet Thomas Kennedy to compose an ode in its honor, in eight verses beginning “Most excellent, far fam’d and far fetch’d Cheese!”

It’s not clear what ultimately happened to the cheese, though Jefferson’s guests appear still to have been eating it a year later. One story holds that its remains were eventually tossed into the Potomac River.

But the gifting of a big cheese didn’t end there. An even more mammoth cheese arrived at the White House in 1835, a present to President Andrew Jackson from Col. Thomas Meacham of Oswego County, New York. Meacham wasn’t a fan of Jackson (he had supported Jackson’s rival, Henry Clay), but he hoped that the cheese would serve to advertise the exceptional industry and ingenuity of his home state. Meacham’s cheese, which weighed 1,400 pounds, was paraded through New York in a wagon decorated with flags; then shipped to D.C. via schooner.

Jackson, like Jefferson, displayed his cheese in the East Room – the White House’s largest reception room – and served it to a crowd of 10,000 on Washington’s birthday in 1837. The cheese was said to be a hit, despite its powerful odor (“so strong as to overpower a number of dandies and lackadaisical ladies,” according to The Portsmouth Journal of Literature and Politics.)

The guests polished it off in two hours, leaving behind only the smell – so penetrating and offensive that the staff of incoming President Martin Van Buren was forced to spend days airing the East Room carpets, stripping down the curtains, and whitewashing the walls. Van Buren subsequently banned the serving of food at White House receptions.

Peter Waddell, The Great Cheese, oil on canvas, 48″ x 96″, © White House Historical Association.
As the 19th century progressed, ever-more-enormous cheeses became a feature of expositions and agricultural fairs, often to be ceremoniously sliced by some prominent public figure.

The World’s Columbian Exposition of 1893, also known as the Chicago World’s Fair, featured, for example, a “Mammoth Cheese” from Ontario, Canada, weighing in at 22,000 pounds. It was made from the milk of 10,000 cows and transported to the fair via special train. Also known as Le Fromage Éléphant, it wowed fairgoers by promptly crashing through the floor of the Canadian display and having to be transferred to a reinforced concrete slab in the Agricultural Building.

The year 1911 found President William Howard Taft at the National Dairy Show, cutting a six-ton cheese (“a whopper of a cheese, a regular Behemoth of a cheese, a Gargantuan, Brobdingnagian sort of cheese, the very granddaddy of all the cheeses that have been made, manufactured or concocted since the world began, says Walton Williams of The Daily Times, a Pennsylvania newspaper, on Oct. 16, 1911.

Given all this historical cheese enormity, it seems obvious why the phrase “big cheese” should have come to mean the most important person in a group, synonymous with such alpha-wolf terms as big wheel, top dog, and head honcho. Perversely, though, big cheese, linguistically, seems not to have much to do with cheese.

The term is an import from England that first popped up in American English in the early 20th century. Best guess is that it originated as “chiz,” defined in the Anglo-Indian dictionary Hobson-Jobson (1886) – a glossary of terms adopted by the occupying British from native Indian languages – as “thing.” “It’s the chiz,” an admiring expression used in British India to mean “It’s the real thing,” was eventually transmogrified in England to the more familiar “It’s the cheese,” and later, in America, to “big cheese.”

Today, the White House has twice sponsored Big Block of Cheese Day in January, a holiday inspired both by Andrew Jackson’s democratically shared cheese and a cheese-promoting episode of the popular TV political drama, The West Wing. On Big Block of Cheese Day, members of the administration flock to the social media to answer the public’s questions about issues of concern.

Sadly, the event does not involve actual cheese.

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Originally posted by patw:
That MAK and cheese looks gouda. The only thing I love more is BREAD. A nice fresh loaf and cheese brings smile to my face.

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That MAK and cheese looks gouda.