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Adverse health effects from blue cheese?
September 26, 2019, 12:26 PM
Pipe SmokerAdverse health effects from blue cheese?
I eat a lot of blue cheese, and wondered if the mold that produces the blue streaks might have adverse health effects. There are cultures that enjoy a certain kind of moldy bread, but they have a higher incidence of esophageal cancer.
A web search suggests that there are no adverse health effects from that mold. This article, for example:
“…Penicillium roqueforti and Penicillium glaucum, which are the blue moulds used for cheese, cannot produce these toxins in cheese. The combination of acidity, salinity, moisture, density, temperature and oxygen flow creates an environment that is far outside the envelope of toxin production range for these moulds. In fact, this is true for almost all moulds in cheese, which is the reason that cheese has been considered a safe mouldy food to eat for the past 9,000 years…”
www.google.com/amp/s/www.indep...e-9826683.html%3fampBTW – I like Stilton blue, but my very favorite is Cambozola Grand Noir. Semi soft, and utterly delicious, my upscale grocery usually has it in stock.
www.amazon.com/Kaserei-Champig...-pound/dp/B07C4NN8Z9
Serious about crackers. September 26, 2019, 12:27 PM
mcrimmWhoo, I feel better now. I love that stuff.
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old rugged crossNone, just think of it as eating penicillin
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September 26, 2019, 12:29 PM
RichardCIts all in how you cut it.
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September 26, 2019, 12:37 PM
PASigIt's good mold, nothing to be worried about.
People have been eating it for what, 1,000 years now?
September 26, 2019, 12:41 PM
egregoreYeah, people are dropping like flies from eating blue and other cheeses.
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I eat a lot of blue cheese, and wondered if the mold that produces the blue streaks might have adverse health effects.
As compared to smoking tobacco?
September 26, 2019, 01:06 PM
LS1 GTOI have an adverse reaction to it also, it’s called wretching.
I do not like the stuff - aroma, looks, texture, none of it.
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September 26, 2019, 01:08 PM
Pipe Smokerquote:
Originally posted by egregore:
Yeah, people are dropping like flies from eating blue and other cheeses.
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I eat a lot of blue cheese, and wondered if the mold that produces the blue streaks might have adverse health effects.
As compared to smoking tobacco?
There are many studies on the health effects of cigarette smoking, but I know of only two reputable studies that include the health effects of pipe smoking. Both studies were made by US public health organizations.
Those two studies used very different methodologies, but both reached the same broad conclusion: Cigarette smokers have significantly shorter life spans than nonsmokers. Cigar smokers have about the same life spans as nonsmokers. Pipe smokers have slightly longer life spans than nonsmokers.
Serious about crackers. September 26, 2019, 01:19 PM
jhe888I was not worried about moldy cheeses, but I suppose I am glad to know that I am justified in not worrying.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. September 26, 2019, 01:35 PM
DakorAll cheese is produced by microflora and for the cheeses that are widespread in the human diet, the biota is well proven to be GRAS (Generally Regarded as Safe).
September 26, 2019, 02:36 PM
signewtI've tried to like it but the stuff tastes like goat vomit regardless of whatever name it uses.
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September 26, 2019, 02:49 PM
HRKLike to take blue cheese and mix in in with the raw ground beef to make burgers, place them on the smoker and the BC melts into the burger leaving a super tangy bit in every bite.
September 26, 2019, 02:53 PM
Loswsmithquote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
Its all in how you cut it.
Made me spew my tea!
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September 26, 2019, 03:21 PM
lymanthere was a study out there somewhere that suggested if you were Celiac, the mold/cheese produced an enzyme that did not do well with a Celiac's tummy,
my wife (she is Celiac) loves it, but only eats it sparingly to prevent any unwanted distress
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September 26, 2019, 03:30 PM
Fenrisquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
“…Penicillium roqueforti and Penicillium glaucum, which are the blue moulds used for cheese, cannot produce these toxins in cheese. The combination of acidity, salinity, moisture, density, temperature and oxygen flow creates an environment that is far outside the envelope of toxin production range for these moulds. In fact, this is true for almost all moulds in cheese, which is the reason that cheese has been considered a safe mouldy food to eat for the past 9,000 years…”
So it's safe to eat that old, moldy cheddar that I found in the back of the fridge?
God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump. September 26, 2019, 03:36 PM
Beancookerquote:
Originally posted by Loswsmith:
quote:
Originally posted by RichardC:
Its all in how you cut it.
Made me spew my tea!
You smelled it through the intarwebz?
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September 26, 2019, 04:07 PM
egregorequote:
So it's safe to eat that old, moldy cheddar that I found in the back of the fridge?
Not that I'd want it unless it was some improbable survival situation like passing through a mist and shrinking to microscopic size, but if you scrape off the external mold, it would probably be OK (as in not sickening or killing you) to eat. The mold
on the cheese is not (likely) the same as that used to
make the cheese.
September 26, 2019, 04:36 PM
Johnny 3eaglesTruck Cheese! Hell Yeah.
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September 26, 2019, 05:26 PM
Bulldog7972quote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
I eat a lot of blue cheese, and wondered if the mold that produces the blue streaks might have adverse health effects. There are cultures that enjoy a certain kind of moldy bread, but they have a higher incidence of esophageal cancer.
A web search suggests that there are no adverse health effects from that mold. This article, for example:
“…Penicillium roqueforti and Penicillium glaucum, which are the blue moulds used for cheese, cannot produce these toxins in cheese. The combination of acidity, salinity, moisture, density, temperature and oxygen flow creates an environment that is far outside the envelope of toxin production range for these moulds. In fact, this is true for almost all moulds in cheese, which is the reason that cheese has been considered a safe mouldy food to eat for the past 9,000 years…”
www.google.com/amp/s/www.indep...e-9826683.html%3fampBTW – I like Stilton blue, but my very favorite is Cambozola Grand Noir. Semi soft, and utterly delicious, my upscale grocery usually has it in stock.
www.amazon.com/Kaserei-Champig...-pound/dp/B07C4NN8Z9
39 bucks plus 20 for shipping. It's that good?
September 26, 2019, 06:22 PM
corsairEdible molds and fermented drink are something that more people should partake in, principally, eat more cheese and drink more wine, cider and, beer. For most people, adding the flora and varying the ph into your gut will help your internal biome ergo, better digestion.