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From the photo, it looks like the grill is not uniform. As in the mount holes are not in the center of the other two support bars. The support bars look to be 90 degree angles while the mounting bars look to be something like 35-40 and 50-55 degrees from the support bars. Is this correct? If so, get the measurements to the points centered in between the two holes. I think you'll find the center points are the measurements I posted for the 31 3/16 cabinet. | |||
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Correct. The mount holes are NOT a square. The B to C measurement is longer than the B to D measurement. The mount holes (four of them) for the fan guard are directly under (B, D and C as examples). Those are not easy to see in the pic since the grille is over it but the holes really are there (red circles). The measurements are based off those holes where the screws went in, and I'm confident they are correct. There are four other holes that could be mis-interpreted as mounting holes (blue circles), but they are not. Maybe drain holes? I did not use these for measurements.  Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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something is off on the model number given. Factory Authorized Parts™ - 329694-416 - Fan Guard is for a 24ABB336ABN3 | |||
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https://ma.carrierenterprise.c...s/index/searchParts/ https://www.supplyhouse.com/Ca...329694-416-Fan-Guard | |||
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Thank you, but you may be looking at the incorrect model number? I've got model number 24ABR336A0031010. When I look up the Fan Guard for that model, I'm getting 329682-401.  Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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interesting. When I entered the number, I got zip. Ridiculous price. But typical of carrier when they discontinue something. Looks like some creative repair work to me. ok, that part number is correct for the model number you entered. Cross ref. the old parts EPIC site. | |||
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Ok, it's not uniform like I thought. Did you happen to grab the measurements, as if the holes was equal (as if there were holes located in the center of the holes you have? As I referenced above, I believe they will be what I posted for the 31 3/16 cabinet. While you're at it, what's the diagonal screw to screw? | |||
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I'm sorry, I'm not getting what you are asking me to measure. The measurements I made were to/from the center of each hole as shown with the red circles. Then the other measurement was from the outside of the cabinet to the front holes (A to B). Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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What do the HVAC Companies do when they haul off old units? Completely recycle?? I have run into simiar problems before when trying to replace a part that has broken and is no longer manufactured. Is calling around a possibility or searching Ebay? Just trying to help. Sorry for your problem. | |||
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Tahnk you. Right now I think my best bet may be to see if I can find someone locally to weld up a new circle in the middle of the guard. It's welded in there now. Spent some time yesterday trying to find a welding shop. A couple I called did not answer and when I went there nobody was around. All the "welding" shops around here seem to be big outfits that work in aerospace. I'll continue the hunt this afternoon or tomorrow. Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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Ok, put a dot in between the two sets of holes you have in the top (the actual mounting holes and the extra holes). This should make the mounting locations 90 degrees from one another (uniform). Then take measurements as if the dots was the actual mounting holes. | |||
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 So I put a dot between the mounting hole and what I'm referring to as the drain hole. The two holes are 2 3/4" apart, so the space between the dot and each hole is about 1 3/8" E to F (front of case to dot) is 6 3/4" The dots still do not come out as a square. F to G is 17 3/4" F to H along the front is 19 7/8" Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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Ok, make the dots a square and take measurements. See if you can get them to match the dimensions for the 31 3/16 cabinet. Here they are again... Edge to front screw 6 9/16 (e to f) Edge to back screw 24 11/16 (e to g) Screw corner to corner 18 1/8 (f to g) I'm assuming the grill is a perfect circle. From this last picture, it doesn't look to be? | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Too bad you are not here. The shipyard has an abundance of welders and the like. You could probably cruise the parking lot at quitting time and find someone to do the welding. Some of the independent muffler shops might be an option. | |||
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It is not a perfect circle, and I am unable to get your measurements to work. Magenta line (width) is 27 1/2" and the white line (depth) is 26" If I create a dot 6 9/16" in (near E to F), and then another dot to get 24 11/16" for about E to G, the measurement from F to H comes up short and is in mid-air, somewhere near point J.  Are you trying to match up a Fan Guard you have in your possession or can get to? Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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First off, I would not recommend wasting time on an old r22 unit. That said if you want it fixed and don't want to spend much (if any) money, here is a way to do it. Measure distance beween bolts on the back of the condenser fan motor. Source two lengths of angle iron (approx 30" each and cut to length after fitting motor and test fitting) Drill two holes in each angle iron distance to match motor mounting studs. Mount angle iron to studs angle up. Place angle irons over condenser fan hole in unit, mark where they will fit into the recess on top, cut them to fit, drill angle iron only so you can shoot self tappers through angles into top of unit, spray paint in color of choice mount with 4 self tapping screws, put a piece of expanded metal over the top with 6 more self tappers and fender washers being sure not to puncture coil or lines (note the screws that hold down the expanded metal go in lines parallel to the angle iron so that the metal will bow over the top of the upturned angle iron). You can paint the expanded metal if you are so inclined. Ugly, but cheap and made from scraps that many would have laying around. More durable than the original if care is taken when screwing together. Or get a new condenser and indoor coil. | |||
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Well shit, originally I thought it was round... up until that last picture. I have and can get several in the $40-50 range. Most normal guards are round and is one reason yours (oblong) is $pecial. Now that I know the oblong measurements, I'll see what I can come up with. | |||
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Thanks, I'm hoping to either find a used one or get a local welder to put a new center piece on. Thinking the welding job should not cost too much money. Your option is something I will consider as well. Not putting much into this unit, but it's perfectly fine other than that Fan Guard, and I even have a new motor for it. Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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Thank you! Steve Small Business Website Design & Maintenance - https://spidercreations.net | OpSpec Training - https://opspectraining.com | Grayguns - https://grayguns.com Evil exists. You can not negotiate with, bribe or placate evil. You're not going to be able to have it sit down with Dr. Phil for an anger management session either. | |||
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