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Lerner, Paz say they fear physical harm from enraged public, want IRS testimony sealed permanently

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November 20, 2017, 01:11 PM
konata88
Lerner, Paz say they fear physical harm from enraged public, want IRS testimony sealed permanently
Can't do the time, don't do the crime.

Fuck it - make everything public and let the consequences happen as they may.

Life (living) is too good for them. They get off easy with anything that may happen.




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November 20, 2017, 01:18 PM
zoom6zoom
Hey Lois:





I have my own style of humor. I call it Snarkasm.
November 20, 2017, 02:12 PM
18DAI
And yet she wont be charged with anything or prosecuted. Disgraceful.

I hope the Judge denies her motion. Regards 18DAI


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November 20, 2017, 02:14 PM
downtownv
This bitch was all but assured that Cliton would bury this.... Surprise That Bitch lost!
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November 20, 2017, 02:19 PM
mbinky
Here is what the left learned:

1. Weaponizing the IRS against you political enemies is acceptable

2. When you do weaponize a federal agency against one political ideology, DON'T GET CAUGHT! It's embarrasing.

And the DOJ (taxpayers) might have to pay a settlement and make you say sorry.
November 20, 2017, 02:28 PM
46and2
The standard to NOT disclose ought to be significantly higher than the inverse; after all, they were public employees working for a public entity in a public case about their misbehavior. Short of catching the next Charles Manson camping out in her backyard with weaponized anthrax, how can she possibly demonstrate a real treat that's meaningful enough to outweigh the public's need - Right, even - to know WTF our government is doing? The whole thing - her entire argument - seems pear shaped in the extreme.

Who cares if she's being called a "scum sucking devil of immeasurable proportions who is also a criminal thug that deserves ten years of public flogging before being set on fire" unless there's a very real threat someone specific will act on those words?
November 20, 2017, 02:46 PM
Scoutmaster
quote:
Originally posted by mbinky:
Here is what the left learned:

1. Weaponizing the IRS against you political enemies is acceptable

2. When you do weaponize a federal agency against one political ideology, DON'T GET CAUGHT! It's embarrasing.

And the DOJ (taxpayers) might have to pay a settlement and make you say sorry.


I think that's a fair summary. I might suggest that weaponizing the IRS is acceptable for liberals. Had conservatives done so, there would have been hell to pay, 24/7, until the last farthing of punishment was paid.




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- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
November 20, 2017, 02:47 PM
arfmel
They're scared? Good!
November 20, 2017, 02:57 PM
Audioholic
The depositions should be unsealed and made public. If Lerner and Paz are so worried about their safety let them be sealed in perpetuity. Perhaps their own version of Witless protection where they live the rest of their miserable lives somewhere cold and harsh in demeaning jobs. Cuppa tea ladies?




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November 20, 2017, 03:09 PM
Woodman
quote:
Originally posted by airsoft guy:
If government officials don't want the people to know what they were up to, because the people might show up at their house with pitchforks and torches, then the people probably ought to know what kind of shenanigans those officials were getting up to. Then they become a cautionary tale for future government officials, screw around with the people, and you might find yourself in a tall tree with a short rope.


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November 20, 2017, 04:41 PM
rscalzo
I guess she figures that there is a lot of room now in the special hidden document warehouse now that all the Kennedy files have been cleared out.


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November 20, 2017, 04:46 PM
nhtagmember
well, most of us here are either right-leaning republicans, TEA party members or asssociate with political affiliations that were actively discriminated against.

we might not have lawsuit, but as a group cant we FOIA ALL of the info and have it published?

I think SIG2340 has a better argument, but as a group we've been abused by the system (Lerner and her cronies)



[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC


November 20, 2017, 04:47 PM
Elk Hunter
quote:
The government settled the class-action lawsuit in Ohio and another tea party challenge in the District of Columbia in two agreements last month, admitting to the illegal behavior. The Ohio settlement also called for the government to pay $3.5 million to the tea party groups, according to one of the plaintiffs.



Why do we taxpayers have to pay this? They should make Lerner and every asshole involved in that crap pay it. Then prosecute them and put them in jail.


Elk

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November 20, 2017, 04:55 PM
DennisM
24 years Fed service, 5 more county & state.

29 years worth of public employment, and I've never once worried about what an "enraged public" might do if the scope of my activities were revealed.

I offer that this might be a good "pulse check" for fellow civil servants: If your planned behavior will likely incite the ordinarily complacent, law-abiding citizenry to armed revolt, perhaps you shouldvrethink whatever it is you're about to do.
November 20, 2017, 05:05 PM
sdy
We need to get Jeff Sessions off his butt on this and start going after IRS convictions.

I hope someone releases the "sealed" testimony and it triggers a public outcry.

REPs don't how to play the game. It's like the "dossier". Leak out crazy stuff and force them to unseal to defend.

Harry Reid knows that game.
November 20, 2017, 05:19 PM
Ryanp225
They are smart to be afraid. Too bad the public wasn't a bit smarter because then we'd get to see a "lynch a bitch".
November 20, 2017, 05:26 PM
jhe888
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
does SigForum have any legal standing to file a class action lawsuit for the release of ALL of the info under a FOIA and we can publish it all

just curious - we have a shitload of members who might like to be part of something nice


One doesn't file a class action to make a FOIA request. You just make it. If you don't get what you want, and want to litigate it then you can file a suit, then you sue. That isn't a class action.

That isn't how class actions are used or what they are designed for.




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November 20, 2017, 05:27 PM
marksman41
After she's assured that the depositions and documents will remained sealed, and after she's done giving up all the goods, just have the same accidental release of sealed records that allowed Obama to use against his opponent in the Illinois senatorial race. Goose, gander, and all that.




November 20, 2017, 05:42 PM
nhtagmember
jhe

you interested in signing on for a FOIA request?



[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC


November 20, 2017, 05:45 PM
Sailor1911
Here is the deal I would offer: Both you and the transcripts can be sealed in perpetuity - in a cell. Take it or leave it!




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