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Very potent rounds. I used to have to test monthly batches of MK19 rounds. It was pure hell  Best regards, Tom I have no comment at this time. | |||
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Milan AAP? I heard they're now in caretaker status, I'm guessing Iowa AAP is doing the 40mm grenade work. | |||
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| Go ahead punk, make my day |
AF Security Forces - where you need a complete specialty to learn how to shoot an M16 and complain about standing lots of guard duty.  | |||
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Alls I know is if Bubba strips one off the belt and gets it to chamber in his 37mm flare launcher...  A case of 40mm for the M203/M320 would be scarier to lose, lots of people have (or can get) NFA launchers for those. “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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The ARMY MP's had their pistols attached to their duty belts with lanyards for decades - so they would not lose or misplace them. | |||
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OK, since you're making fun of the AF, here's a Minot incident from 2007 that was FAR worse. Several generals and I think Sec AF got fired. I don't think Security Forces were to blame at all. https://www.newsbud.com/2009/1...ear-incident-part-i/ When I first heard about this I said "No way could that many people be that...sloppy." I was wrong. | |||
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I've posted this before...My Hwy patrol area of responsibility had about 2 dozen missile silos scattered , in and around me. Saw the Security units from Malmstrom AFB all the time. This was the mid 80's and they were still using mostly the little armored vehicles, with an M-60 in a roof mount. One shift I see one of the Peacekeeper vehicles take a corner, headed out to a silo up on Rt 287. Off the roof, there goes an M-60! It skitters across the edge of the road, into the ditch. Some grass and dirt , but really unharmed. I pick it up, it's unloaded, no belt anyway. Lean it against the passenger seat in the car and head northbound to catch these guys. Just past the Hutterite Colony there they are , just pulling up to the gate by one of the Silos. I pull in and get out, as I don't want them to see the 60 on the seat. A 2 LT approaches and politely greets me. I tell him I found something of theirs and it's in the car. I do recall I had to coax him to take a look. To say he turned PALE when he saw the 60 is an understatement. We chatted, told him we (The Agency) always had a good relationship with the USAF and their Security guys and this incident would go no further. I will never forget the surprised looks when he went back and got the 3 others out of the vehicle to retrieve the M-60. | |||
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Sounds to me, like they had the tail gate down on their Humvee, loaded the ammo cans in the back and for some reason, left the tail gate down and took off down the road. Whatever happened, I'm not surprised by this. Back in my green suite days, I personally came upon a rather nice, intact case of linked 7.62 ball one day while cruising down the tank trail headed to a qual range. I mean, just smack dab in the middle of the road. Turns out, one of the Humvees from our ground scout Troop had lost it due to someone leaving it on the rear fender while loading several of these cases into their truck. Carelessness on the part of the Humvee's crew. "Also I heard the voice of the Lord saying who shall I send, and who will go for us? Then said I, here am I, send me." | |||
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Right now, Bubba is saying “Hold my beer....” | |||
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I am Ex USAF Security Police. Here are a few war stories: 1- If you fell asleep on post and were considered a non-hacker, you would mysteriously lose the BCG from from your M16. This would be discovered when you were relieved. And you were GONE! This also worked for the S&W Model 15, just involved losing the ammo. 2- The tactic of everyone looking for lost gear is time honored. One of my fellow troops once lost a Motorola radio. The entire Security flight was put on a line and the search was on. The best part was our Security Control called over the air "Security Control to the lost radio" repeatedly. You know, so we could hear the lost radio! 3- During the winter, the Priority B ramp (the large concrete ramp for non alert KCs and B52s) would become covered in ice and snow. We would pull the plastic engine covers off the aircraft and attach them by their ropes to the pintle hook on our truck. One of the troops would sit on the engine cover and another would ride in the truck bed. Accelerate to a terrifying speed, cut the wheel sharply and at the optimum moment, release the pintle. Zing! USAF Luge! I believe that competing in USAF Luge, if caught, was an all expense paid trip to Leavenworth. Unless things have changed drastically, those responsible for losing the grenades will suffer for it. Sleep soundly, America! Your nukes are well guarded! Disclaimer: When I was on the ramp, SAC was still in the shadow of its warrior father: Curtis Lemay. We had some fun but the consequences were dire for incompetence. A nuke access policy called the "Human Reliability Program" ensured strict compliance with nuke policy. Violate it and you lost your "HRP" status. Without HRP status you had no access to nukes and for SAC Security Police, that meant you were gone.This message has been edited. Last edited by: YooperSigs, End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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We still had those fucking lanyards when I was in.. I got out in 2012, I actually saw a guy who dropped his M9 in the porta john.. yanked it right out by the lanyard so I guess they can come in handy lol | |||
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Out of all the controlled and sensitive items it's been my misfortune to search for, searching for a CEOI in Germany was by far the most stressful. The NCO who lost it was facing at minimum a field grade 15 with 45/45 & loss of a stripe, with the very real potential for far worse. We found it. Then there was the time the motor pool 'lost' an M85...... _____________________________ 'I'm pretty fly for a white guy'. | |||
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I'm pretty sure these would fire in an m203 correct!!? Its on the reservation..so who knows where it went!!!! | |||
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SAC trained killer |
The Air Force does not have MP's, they have AP's, Air Police, which was later changed to SF. Security Forces " May I always be the kind of person my dog thinks I am". | |||
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Used to be SP's. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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We used to have soldiers "lose" M9s pretty regularly on field problems. They always got found by the 3rd day of lockdown. Usually they were tossed through the flap of the 1sg's tent. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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Yup, not surprising Airman Joe Snuffy did you latch the tail gate.... Sure did sgt. ..... | |||
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Nope, different round. The Mk19 round has a range of about 1 kilometer Vs the 400 m range of a M203. | |||
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Try it. Just film it so we can use it for the safety briefings and memorial service later. Allegedly, the MK-19 rounds are longer and higher pressure. Supposedly the M203 can't take the pressure of a MK-19 round. But, I've never witnessed anyone try it, so I could be completely wrong. | |||
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