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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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Originally posted by gw3971:... I remember in the Tucson airport going through private security before the TSA and seeing five Somali refugees pretending to do the screening before we boarded the plane. Several years later I flew back into Tucson and when i left who did i see? five female Somali refugees in new blue tsa uniforms who fould barely put together a cohesive sentence.

LOL "VIVA NEPAL!!!"

That brings to mind the scene in "The Golden Child" when Eddie Murphy is going through customs in Nepal and talking with the guards.

I know, Somali vs Nepali, not greater than or equal too, but still a funny visual.

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Damn Monkey... nailed it!

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:
I will be flying out in a couple of weeks, first time in many years. I will make a "range report" when I get back.

I am about 6'2, 230 lbs. Wonder if they will grope me. Oh, and I am 79, if that makes a difference to the pervs.

I am also 79 and recently made a number of air travel flights. I have metal in my lower leg and at my sternum, so I usually get a patting down after going through the various detectors. I can't say I found the process demeaning.

flashguy

This incident seems to underline a thought that I've had brewing in my head for a while. There seems to be a general nonchalance related to firearms in the last decade or so.

Most firearm owners that I know are much like myself. They know exactly where their firearms are at all times, and where they are pointed when they aren't in a safe or holster.

It is pretty clear to me that a lot of people are treating their firearms like their cell phone, make up case, reading glasses, or any number of casual items that we carry day to day. What other possible explanation could one have for 'forgetting' your firearm is in your purse, bag, or waistband.

Just the other day here a mother left her pistol in the side compartment of her car door while she went in to get a toddler from day care, the child left in the car found it and fired a shot out the window. In the last week, several kids have shot each other or themselves after finding unsecured & loaded firearms in the home, while home unsupervised.

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Originally posted by Aeteocles:
Sounds like she had a passport, so maybe she was flying internationally?

Maybe. I generally use my passport instead of driver license when ID is required. I have not flown internationally for almost 40 years (other than as a pilot, many trips to the Bahamas).

Driver license has more information than I might want to give. Passport is fine for ID, does not have residence address.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
She was a fool to self-report.

Once she found it, she should have left the checkpoint as oblivious as the persons ahead and behind her.

After all, if TSA's experts missed it with their billion-dollar Ouija machines, and she was oblivious as to the pistol's presence before the checkpoint, who is to say when she found it afterward?

Her better choice was to go out of the secure terminal, back to her car, dump the gun, go back through security.

In other words, never invite the man into your life.

Sounds like the best answer to the situation.

So what kind of penalties is she facing?

A reason carrying off of your body is a bad idea.

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Originally posted by Paragon:
So what kind of penalties is she facing?

The worst long-term thing here is she might face being on the "No Fly List", which we've seen is almost impossible to get off of. As far as charges and penalties, I wouldn't know.

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Originally posted by tanksoldier:

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Of course, she doesn't sound too bright (who FORGETS they have a loaded firearm on them when they are trying to fly commercial?)

I actually had a troop do it. It was the same bag he used to go to the range.

There's a reason I never fly with the Ruck that I'm now using as a range bag. Once that gets demoted back to ruck from range bag, I'll clear it out before I take it on trips again.

And as far as passport goes, I *always* fly with my passport for ID. It's easier than digging my license out of my wallet.

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Originally posted by hile:

And as far as passport goes, I *always* fly with my passport for ID. It's easier than digging my license out of my wallet.

Using a passport at the airport does not by itself necessarily indicate an international flight. However, needing to pull out your passport after clearing security (which seems to be the case of the lady in the story) does.

Once she got through security she actually did the right thing. Unfortunately the right thing does at times bring consequences.

If her story checks out as true and a simple mistake in haste to get to the airport, the judge may be lenient with her.

If you travel a lot, keep separate bags that NEVER contain anything that you can't fly with (guns, ammo, knives, razor blades, etc). If you have limited bags, empty them completely checking every nook & cranny and re-pack the bag checking every item that you re-pack.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

If you travel a lot, keep separate bags that NEVER contain anything that you can't fly with (guns, ammo, knives, razor blades, etc). If you have limited bags, empty them completely checking every nook & cranny and re-pack the bag checking every item that you re-pack.

I would say, if you travel at ALL, never mix bags. I wouldn't want them to find powder residue on a carry-on bag. Bags aren't THAT expensive.

I'm not dumb enough to forget a gun in my purse, but assuming it happened somehow, I sure wouldn't rat myself out. I'd probably quietly leave and stash the gun in my car, or even miss the flight if needed.

And yes, TSA fucked it up.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

If you travel a lot, keep separate bags that NEVER contain anything that you can't fly with (guns, ammo, knives, razor blades, etc). If you have limited bags, empty them completely checking every nook & cranny and re-pack the bag checking every item that you re-pack.

I would say, if you travel at ALL, never mix bags. I wouldn't want them to find powder residue on a carry-on bag. Bags aren't THAT expensive.

Last fall, I was getting ready to travel for my job. I hadn't traveled by air for 5 years. Cleaning out my satchel I was going to use, I found a couple rounds of empty brass. I remembered I had taken the satchel to a couple of handgun classes. So, go to WallyWorld for a new backpack.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
(who FORGETS they have a loaded firearm on them when they are trying to fly commercial?). . .

People who think nothing about carrying a gun? I know someone who did it, didn't even think about it till they were on the plane and realized they'd "snuck' the gun past security without trying.

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I'm not dumb enough to forget a gun in my purse, but assuming it happened somehow, I sure wouldn't rat myself out. I'd probably quietly leave and stash the gun in my car, or even miss the flight if needed.

You carry a purse? Your Avatar is confusing me.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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I'm not dumb enough to forget a gun in my purse, but assuming it happened somehow, I sure wouldn't rat myself out. I'd probably quietly leave and stash the gun in my car, or even miss the flight if needed.

You carry a purse? Your Avatar is confusing me.

I'm not dumb enough to walk out of my house with a loaded firearm anywhere on my person, without knowing it. "Accidentally" carrying a weapon into a security checkpoint is incomprehensible to me.

She was absent-minded, at best. Somebody else posted about people being too 'casual' about carrying weapons - I am not one of them.

I was referring to the little ray of sunshine Avatar.

I meant my hypothetical purse.

I have known several who have had lives or careers if not ruined, severely bruised, over something like this, pistol in a bag used as a carry on.

I believe there is a statute now giving protection in some circumstances, a "King's X" if you will, to prevent prosecution.

I seem to recall a news report that DFW gets more handguns at checkpoints than any security posts in the country.