The latest gun buying panic is different than the others

March 26, 2020, 03:33 PM

Two months ago, my son and I discussed how well off we are with respect to this subject. Then, after reading this thread, I asked him if he might be interested in selling while the demand is high. We both agreed: We're not that well off!

Maybe it's just impossible to ever feel so well off that you'd be willing to sell?

March 26, 2020, 03:56 PM

ArtieS

quote:
Originally posted by synthplayer:

Maybe it's just impossible to ever feel so well off that you'd be willing to sell?

Well, there's that!

Like I said in the related how much ammo do you have thread; I never have enough, but I have enough unless there is a major insurrection.

"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."

Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II.

March 26, 2020, 05:00 PM

Baron Flynt

People that grew up in gun owning families don’t know how intimidating it is just to go into a store and ask questions. I lurked here for over a year getting all the info I could on the firearm laws and safety precautions before I could even feel comfortable going into the LGS.

Before I joined my local gun club, I anguished over it for weeks because I was sure they would reject me because I didn’t know anything about guns.

If you see somebody at your range that looks like a noob, introduce yourself and ask if you can help. It might make a big difference for them and encourage them to stick with shooting.

March 26, 2020, 05:14 PM

flashguy

quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
Strange, I have not felt any interest in buying any more guns or ammo recently.

Does this mean I have enough?

I'm in the same boat. (Well, I have purchased a little ammo, mostly because it was a good deal, but before the panic. And within the last 6 months I have bought a couple of guns online--pick them up at a nice little shop in Wylie, Texas. I haven't shot them, yet, though.)

flashguy

March 26, 2020, 08:20 PM

Rick Lee

quote:
Originally posted by flashguy:
quote:
Originally posted by Fenris:
Strange, I have not felt any interest in buying any more guns or ammo recently.

Does this mean I have enough?
I'm in the same boat. (Well, I have purchased a little ammo, mostly because it was a good deal, but before the panic. And within the last 6 months I have bought a couple of guns online--pick them up at a nice little shop in Wylie, Texas. I haven't shot them, yet, though.)

flashguy

I lived in Wylie when it had 2500 people. I bought my dad a Winchester 1906 pump .22 at an antique store there when I was 10 in 1981 - Father's Day gift, Mom gave me the $$. It was $75 and they let me walk out of there with it. Those were the days. I have that gun now and still shoot it.

March 26, 2020, 08:22 PM

asonie

I wouldn’t have minded having a few more hollow points for the G19. It’s hardly a crisis though, and I have enough practice ammo and rifle fuel for quite some time. No standing 5 hours in the rain here.

March 26, 2020, 10:59 PM

midwest guy

quote:
Originally posted by ArtieS:
quote:
Originally posted by synthplayer:

Maybe it's just impossible to ever feel so well off that you'd be willing to sell?

Well, there's that!

Like I said in the related how much ammo do you have thread; I never have enough, but I have enough unless there is a major insurrection.

So germane to my conversation with my son tonight. He has a work colleague who has never owned a firearm and is having difficulty in finding a 9mm. My son knows I have a P30 I despise and would I be interested in selling it to his friend. Let me sleep on that was my response.

March 27, 2020, 12:17 AM

Excam_Man

quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
^^For all the States that have enacted 'universal BGC'...congrats...being able to buy or simply borrow a gun from a friend in times like these is a no-go without the trip to the FFL, which in some places is taking weeks to complete.

Living in a free state has its advantages. Gift or sell it to them face-to-face.

March 27, 2020, 01:24 AM

Boss1

quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
^^For all the States that have enacted 'universal BGC'...congrats...being able to buy or simply borrow a gun from a friend in times like these is a no-go without the trip to the FFL, which in some places is taking weeks to complete.

Living in a free state has its advantages. Gift or sell it to them face-to-face.

Not a good idea...illegal if not an immediate family member.

And this was a much freer state just a few years ago.

Boss

March 27, 2020, 05:09 AM

XinTX

quote:
Originally posted by sigfreund:
quote:
Originally posted by Hound Dog:
I'm gonna disagree.

I do too. Wrong is wrong regardless of who is victimized.
I have no great hope that the experiences of all the new gun buyers will result in meaningful changes to how our rights are infringed, but even a few converts or at least a few more who understand our position on waiting periods are better than none.

And regardless of how many new converts rally to our cause, the rest of us should keep the lessons of this crisis in mind for the future. One thing in particular is that although many gun rights supporters don’t object to “universal” background checks and the elimination of private sales, this demonstrates what can easily happen when antigun rights authorities can halt gun transfers entirely by fiat in ways they could only dream of doing normally. The antis’ mantra is, “No, no, no; this won’t affect the ability of the law-abiding to acquire guns, so you have no reason to oppose this common sense measure,” but now we’re seeing that such laws do exactly that when coupled with other measures.

Agree, and I do hope folks like the NRA and others are looking at this as an opportunity to challenge some of these measures. Real easy for a bureaucrat to simply close down the permitting offices due to some "emergency".

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March 27, 2020, 07:10 AM

nhracecraft

quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
^^For all the States that have enacted 'universal BGC'...congrats...being able to buy or simply borrow a gun from a friend in times like these is a no-go without the trip to the FFL, which in some places is taking weeks to complete.

Living in a free state has its advantages. Gift or sell it to them face-to-face.

Not a good idea...illegal if not an immediate family member.

And this was a much freer state just a few years ago.

Boss

Maybe illegal, maybe not....Neither of you have a listed location/state, so nobody 'really' knows.

March 27, 2020, 07:13 AM

sourdough44

Just for the hexx of it, I reloaded some 223 ammo yesterday. My prairie dogging trip out west is still on for June. I have more to finish up today.

Just like a run on T.P., I don’t think 5000 rounds of ammo will do much about Covid-19.

I did meet a guy a week ago, near about gun neutral. He mentioned maybe he should be buying a gun? I said yes you should, at the least you’ll be wanting to teach your kids as they get older.

I told him now wasn’t the best time, but start working on it.

March 27, 2020, 07:59 AM

airsoft guy

quote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:
^^For all the States that have enacted 'universal BGC'...congrats...being able to buy or simply borrow a gun from a friend in times like these is a no-go without the trip to the FFL, which in some places is taking weeks to complete.

Living in a free state has its advantages. Gift or sell it to them face-to-face.

Not a good idea...illegal if not an immediate family member.

And this was a much freer state just a few years ago.

Boss

Maybe illegal, maybe not....Neither of you have a listed location/state, so nobody 'really' knows.

Boss1 is in Washington like me, where for a minute just handing someone your gun without doing a background check was a crime. No private sales, and all semi auto rifles are "assault weapons" with further background checks and restrictions and such, all thanks to Bloomberg, our Governor Douche Sock, and Sideshow Bob our attorney general, all of whom I hope get the COVID and it hurts.

March 27, 2020, 08:12 AM

braillediver

quote:
Originally posted by Baron Flynt:
People that grew up in gun owning families don’t know how intimidating it is just to go into a store and ask questions. I lurked here for over a year getting all the info I could on the firearm laws and safety precautions before I could even feel comfortable going into the LGS.

Before I joined my local gun club, I anguished over it for weeks because I was sure they would reject me because I didn’t know anything about guns.

If you see somebody at your range that looks like a noob, introduce yourself and ask if you can help. It might make a big difference for them and encourage them to stick with shooting.

Welcome Brother. Good suggestions since not everyone was brought up in a gun friendly environment. In this time of uncertainty it's nice to reach out and help others as able.

This can be a solitary sport But like fishermen we like to talk and share knowledge and experiences.

March 27, 2020, 12:12 PM

iron chef

quote:
Originally posted by midwest guy:
So germane to my conversation with my son tonight. He has a work colleague who has never owned a firearm and is having difficulty in finding a 9mm. My son knows I have a P30 I despise and would I be interested in selling it to his friend. Let me sleep on that was my response.

Thread drift, but why do you hate your HK P30 so much?

March 27, 2020, 12:24 PM

parabellum

Take it to email or start a thread on the subject, plese.

March 27, 2020, 12:48 PM

Excam_Man

quote:
Originally posted by Boss1:

Not a good idea...illegal if not an immediate family member.

I did say living in a free state.
It's legal, here (IN).

March 27, 2020, 01:03 PM

Beanhead

I did see a video recently of a prediction that this panic buy will lead to a glut of 'used' firearms in the market in the upcoming months. This particular shop have waiting period and/or delayed background are already seeing people initially buying 2 or 3 firearms having buyer remorse and asking to back out on one or more of their firearms. Their policy is a restocking fee since they were unable to sell these guns while they were being held. That made them go through with the sale. But you wonder how many of the people bought several things and decide they don't need the 2 pistol, a shotgun, and/or rifle?

I think that there is some legitimate expectation that used prices will be much lower as the inventory of used guns increase. That coupled with the upcoming election, you wonder what will happen.

And then there is the ammunition panic buy....

March 27, 2020, 01:05 PM

RHINOWSO

quote:
Originally posted by Beanhead:
I did see a video recently of a prediction that this panic buy will lead to a glut of 'used' firearms in the market in the upcoming months.

Yeah, if you have cash money in the summer / fall / winter and I bet there will be plenty of good deals to be had.

March 27, 2020, 01:38 PM

esdunbar

Many gun stores went broke after the panic buying in 2016. Everyone bought so much stuff that people went years without buying anything else. I made a ton of great buys on new guns during 2017.

So it's not just used guns. There will be a lot of new gun and ammo sales as well.