Note to self:
Buy up several dozen Kel-Tecs and High Points along with a few thousand rounds of the cheapest, dirtiest Russian steel cased ammo and store it away.
Next big panic comes along and I'm retiring.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
We have a chance to win converts here. Let's not mess it up by trying to 'rub it in their faces.'

You're one of them "hearts and minds" kind of philosophers aint ya?
I'd bet any sum of money that once this dies down they will ALL be back to their commie loving sheepy ways. I wish I had more faith in mankind but we all know how these people think.
So rub it in their faces and then stick the rest of it up their ass!

Bring them into the fold, no need to remind them of the errors of their previous opinion, they crossed the mental (and financial) threshold when they made the purchase...it's up to us ardent gun owners/enthusiasts, to make sure they don't regret that decision.

I'll take one convert over none.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:
From what I'm hearing around Michigan, it's mostly first time gun buyers. Never had one but they want one now!

I was talking with a friend last week and he had been in a small local gun shop in our town of about 9,000 people. There was a woman there buying a revolver, her first gun ever, because somebody had broken into her home and stolen...toilet paper. Don't know if that was all that was stolen, but it made her understandably nervous.

Nah, it's foooking Karma for those people.

They are getting a real time edumication on the stupidity of their ways.

Maybe, just maybe they'll think twice next time they nod their heads at "common sense gun control".

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Originally posted by corsair:

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
We have a chance to win converts here. Let's not mess it up by trying to 'rub it in their faces.'

You're one of them "hearts and minds" kind of philosophers aint ya?
I'd bet any sum of money that once this dies down they will ALL be back to their commie loving sheepy ways. I wish I had more faith in mankind but we all know how these people think.
So rub it in their faces and then stick the rest of it up their ass!

Bring them into the fold, no need to remind them of the errors of their previous opinion, they crossed the mental (and financial) threshold when they made the purchase...it's up to us ardent gun owners/enthusiasts, to make sure they don't regret that decision.

I'll take one convert over none.

Time to be welcoming, not rub people's noses in it. I would happily help a friend or coworker get familiar with use of their new firearm and make sure they are 100% grounded in the four rules, basic marksmanship, and take down/cleaning of their guns.

Then in October, I'd remind them which party wants to limit their rights to protect their loved ones.

So, how's the lame stream media going to spin this? They induced this panic and probably never expected this surge in gun sales, especially from lefty first time buyers.

HOORAY for the Second Amendment.

The thing that strikes me about the news stories out of California is that so many of the sold-out guns are handguns. Somewhere out there a whole lot of FUDDness seems to have gone missing. Then again, my own inclinations are such that I'm prepared to see a 10/22 with commemorative carving as marginally better for home-defense than a Taurus .380.

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:

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Originally posted by Mountain Man:

Exactly. Being bent over for years now, and great to see the other side get the sausage for a turn.

I'm gonna disagree. Sure, there may be some sweet irony, but a gun owner is a gun owner, and I hate to see ANY of US denied our rights.

We have a chance to win converts here. Let's not mess it up by trying to 'rub it in their faces.'

I dunno. This being the 21st Century and all, I'll take sausage conversions. All this nonsense makes new gun owners not just new gun owners, but new gun owners who are already thoroughly pissed off about restrictions on gun ownership and who are thoroughly worried about future access to ammunition.

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Originally posted by corsair:

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:

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Originally posted by Hound Dog:
We have a chance to win converts here. Let's not mess it up by trying to 'rub it in their faces.'

You're one of them "hearts and minds" kind of philosophers aint ya?
I'd bet any sum of money that once this dies down they will ALL be back to their commie loving sheepy ways. I wish I had more faith in mankind but we all know how these people think.
So rub it in their faces and then stick the rest of it up their ass!

Bring them into the fold, no need to remind them of the errors of their previous opinion, they crossed the mental (and financial) threshold when they made the purchase...it's up to us ardent gun owners/enthusiasts, to make sure they don't regret that decision.

I'll take one convert over none.

Spot on! Far too many gunowners seem to believe that the only people who don't own/shoot guns are "commies". Pretty damn ignorant to paint with that broad of a brush. There's plenty of potential converts to our side (supporters of the 2nd Amendment) who simply haven't developed an opinion one way or the other about personally owning or shooting firearms. Failing to take this opportunity to educate potential allies is very different from trying to convert dedicated enemies. There's a vast middle ground that is and should be cultivated.

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Originally posted by pulicords:
.... There's plenty of potential converts to our side (supporters of the 2nd Amendment) who simply haven't developed an opinion one way or the other about personally owning or shooting firearms. Failing to take this opportunity to educate potential allies is very different from trying to convert dedicated enemies. There's a vast middle ground that is and should be cultivated.

Bravo -- well said

In complete agreement

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You overly optimistic folks crack me up. Commies will always return to commie-ing once they feel their false sense of securities warm embrace again.
What was that story about the frog helping the scorpion across the river?

I said something along the lines of this in the Covid thread. Have fun protecting yourself with your 5-round shotty. Idiots.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
This is one of the silver linings of this virus nonsense. It's gonna be kinda hard to defend your anti-gun views when you were seen standing in line at the local gun store last week. I'm telling you guys- this little exercise has changed some minds on gun control, and when all is said and done, I see fewer attempts at gun control legislation. Think about those people in Virginia who purchased their first firearm last week? How do you think some of them may now feel on the subject of future gun control legislation in their state?

Even better are those liberals that thought you could just mail order a gun, use a "loophole" or get it same day in their communist states. The waiting period was a nice surprise.

You don't know stress until you're one day into a ten day waiting period for your single shot 410 and box of birdshot and the county sheriff is letting 1500 inmates out today

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
You don't know stress until you're one day into a ten day waiting period for your single shot 410 and box of birdshot and the county sheriff is letting 1500 inmates out today

More legal guns out there in more citizen's hands- a win by any measure.

"A gun owner is a gun owner"? Sure, Obama, Biden, and Feinstein are gun owners.

Oh, and anybody remember Zumbo? He's gun owner, too, a fudd who thought AR-15s are assault rifles that had no place in hunting and didn't want to be lumped together with AR-15 owners who terrorize the world with them.

There are plenty of these fuckers out there.

I’m going to give the guys at academy sports cuddos. I went by Sunday and the gun counter was slammed with people. Ammo was empty as expected.
No real need to panic buy guns down here. I checked on line and they had all Glocks on sale from 15-$60 off the whole line.(they still are)
Their usual draw is S&W and Taurus. I think they were very smart using the Glocks in God fearing gun loving TN.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
This is one of the silver linings of this virus nonsense. It's gonna be kinda hard to defend your anti-gun views when you were seen standing in line at the local gun store last week. I'm telling you guys- this little exercise has changed some minds on gun control, and when all is said and done, I see fewer attempts at gun control legislation. Think about those people in Virginia who purchased their first firearm last week? How do you think some of them may now feel on the subject of future gun control legislation in their state?

as a dealer, in Va,


a lot of the first time buyers have not a clue what they want other than someone told them they need a 9mm,


doesn't matter who made it, they want a 9,


a good portion of them are amazed at the amount of paperwork needed, (Va is a point of contact state, you do the 4473 and the SP-65, the SP -65 is what we use to run your background thru the state police system)

wow!! I have to do all this??

yes, you do

wow!! that's a lot of paperwork,

not really,

first question I ask is if the address and info on the VA DL or ID card is correct..

some say no, and have proof,
some say yes, and then put down another address

those are amazed that I cannot use their credit card, kroger shoppers card, bank check (not for fed, ,just state form), or a recent piece of mail to verify where they told me or put on the 4473 as their residence


one guy,,,,, That's my address but I'm staying with my girlfriend cause my roommate is an asshole,


sorry dude,,


another, 19yr old,
that is my address sometimes,, it's a joint custody thing, sometimes I live w/ mymom here,,

dude is 19,, wtf does custody have to do with anything,,,,


often followed up by,,,,


WHAT DO YOU MEAN I AM DELAYED!!!

brief explanation of the system,, and still they don't get it,

WELL I DID NOT DO ANYTHING, I DON'T HAVE A RECORD,

well, that's all well and good Mr. Smith,, but there are Eleventy thousand Robert Smith's out there that may have, including that dude that sings for the Cure,, so they have to check to see if it is you,,


or not,


I could go on longer,,,,


sorry for the rant/rambling

Maybe the NRA is missing an opportunity here.

How about a Men On Target program to introduce these non shooters to the sport? Or Families On Target? We already have Women On Target.

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Originally posted by Ryanp225:
You don't know stress until you're one day into a ten day waiting period for your single shot 410 and box of birdshot and the county sheriff is letting 1500 inmates out today

Well said!