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What color apple do you see? (science related)

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February 10, 2020, 11:07 AM
Ronin1069
What color apple do you see? (science related)
Close your eyes for a moment and visualize an apple. Think of the color, the texture, really try and ‘see it’.

I was listening to my twin 16-year-old boys have a conversation about this last night. J sees #1, and M (and I) see #5.



For some mild entertainment, here is an abridged transcript from their conversation. The fun for me was the shock in each others voices that they could not understand how the other boy ‘lived like this’

J described how he “sees” the scenes described in a book…like almost watching it on TV. If there is a sad girls crying, he can watch her cry.
M sees nothing, just knows the that there is a girl crying, feels bad for her, but cannot see her.

J said, ‘I’m asking all these questions because I thought vivid imagination” was something that everyone has.
M said, “I thought vivid imagination was something teachers just say to annoy me”.

J said….when you go to sleep, when you first close your eyes…what do you see? I see a movie of my day being replayed.
M said: I see nothing. Just darkness....I ”think” about the day, but I don’t see anything.

M is all but accusing J of making this up….he cannot conceive that people can “see” the scenes in a book or their thoughts play out.

M said, “You get dreams for free!”
J said, “do you think Daydreaming is fake news or something?”
M said, ‘Yes! I never see anything!”
J said: “That is terrible!”
M said: “I know!”

M: I always hated English Lit because they would say….”picture this …. “ I never could.

J….”I can even change the angles of what I am seeing when I am thinking about those scenes.”
Mike: “What!?! Dude that is not how the human brain works!”

It went back and forth like this for quite a while, it’s one of the first times I’ve heard them talking to each other like friends.


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February 10, 2020, 11:19 AM
kkina
I see #1. And yes, I can even make it do things or view from a different angle. It takes a mild bit of concentration, but seems otherwise natural.



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February 10, 2020, 11:22 AM
Ronin1069
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
I see #1. And yes, I can even make it do things or view from a different angle. It takes a mild bit of concentration, but seems otherwise natural.


That is mind numbing to me. The boys and I did some research on this last night and found this....

WHAT UNIVERSAL HUMAN EXPERIENCES ARE YOU MISSING WITHOUT REALIZING IT?


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February 10, 2020, 11:24 AM
M-11
Same as kkina, but yellow cuz I was envisioning a yellow delicious. Guess I kind of do the same thing when I'm reading a book of fiction- mentally see a "movie" of what I'm reading.



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February 10, 2020, 11:27 AM
kkina
quote:
Originally posted by Ronin1069:
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
I see #1. And yes, I can even make it do things or view from a different angle. It takes a mild bit of concentration, but seems otherwise natural.


That is mind numbing to me. The boys and I did some research on this last night and found this....

WHAT UNIVERSAL HUMAN EXPERIENCES ARE YOU MISSING WITHOUT REALIZING IT?

Wow. I just thought everyone could do this. I use it all the time, for work and play.



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February 10, 2020, 11:33 AM
MikeinNC
Yeah I can see an apple -specifically a red delicious just like #1.



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February 10, 2020, 11:35 AM
P220 Smudge
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
I see #1. And yes, I can even make it do things or view from a different angle. It takes a mild bit of concentration, but seems otherwise natural.


I am this way also. It's easy for me. Not only do I see the apple, I see the bin I picked it out of, in the grocery store I shop at. Or, if I like, some random booth at a farmer's market we went to with my son four years ago. My wife is more like #5. We've had conversations like Ronin's sons and simply can't believe how the other goes through life.

She goes through books at a speed I can't comprehend, because for me, they're a movie playing out in my mind. I take my time and simply soak in the experience. Decades after I've read a book, I can still vividly recall the mental imagery, the sounds, the feeling of being there, watching it all play out. Everything, just about, except smells. My mind doesn't bother with those too much, but if I concentrate, I can imagine fragrances.


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February 10, 2020, 11:38 AM
erj_pilot
#1 for me as well. I also "envision" action when I'm reading a book. Maybe that's why I'm such a slow reader...I "act it out" in my mind as I'm reading.



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February 10, 2020, 11:38 AM
PR64
I was picturing a green apple Smile


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February 10, 2020, 11:39 AM
Ronin1069
WOW!

I feel like I am missing a ‘sense’ that the rest of the world has and enjoys everyday.


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February 10, 2020, 11:39 AM
lyman
probably cause I was in a conversation about phones, I saw the apple logo when reading the first part,


otherwise , I see #1,



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February 10, 2020, 11:42 AM
HRK
When I close my eyes at night and picture an apple it looks a little different than the first 5...


February 10, 2020, 11:46 AM
Ronin1069
I see purple! LOL


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February 10, 2020, 11:51 AM
slosig
Mine kept flopping back and forth between a red delicious from Lake Chelan, WA (a friend of my dad’s was a long haul trucker and would often bring us a case of those wonderful crisp, juicy, sweet, but not too sweet apples) that are just a memory as the red delicious apples one can get in CA groceries aren’t even close and the Fujis that one can actually get decent ones in CA grocery stores. Not artistic at all, but I do visualize as I read, plan, or think about things.
February 10, 2020, 12:00 PM
Rev. A. J. Forsyth
I too "see" things. I can change angles, rotate, zoom in and out, whatever. When I did the experiment, I saw a green apple! I too thought everyone can do this. Who knew?!
February 10, 2020, 12:07 PM
sigmonkey
I see a red apple and I want to be black.




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February 10, 2020, 12:10 PM
Rev. A. J. Forsyth
quote:
I see a red apple and I want to be black.


I see what you did there.
February 10, 2020, 12:17 PM
Oz_Shadow
The first thought would be the white logo when my phone restarts. When I think of a real apple it is red and yellow like the honeycrisp variety that is all over here.

I visualize everything like real life or on tv.
February 10, 2020, 12:17 PM
flashguy
I see #1 but it's green. I prefer Granny Smith apples.

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February 10, 2020, 12:24 PM
Cassandra
quote:
Originally posted by PR64:
I was picturing a green apple Smile


Me too, a big, green Granny Smith. Cored and filled with juicy raisins and brown sugar then baked............I can see it now, 3-D and in Technicolor...!


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