Your thoughts on CBD (update page 6) placebo effect maybe but it is helping!

August 24, 2019, 12:04 PM

gpbst3

quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
CBD is legal in ALL 50 states.
Regulated under the Dept of AGRICULTURE, NOT THE FDA.
Learn the difference between ISOLATES and Full Spectrum and ONLY buy Full Spectrum.

The oil I got from Joy Organics is Broad Spectrum. It has all the benefits of Full but went through a little extra processing to remove the remaining THC.

I have been taking 15mg of CBD twice a day. I worked a double shift and forgot to pack it. I missed my morning dose and I feel a little more pain in my back today. Dont know if that qualifies as results.

August 24, 2019, 12:11 PM

Ripley

quote:
Originally posted by smithnsig:
It, like Ashawaganda root will reduce cortisol.

How do reduced/raised cortisol levels affect someone?

August 24, 2019, 12:17 PM

stickman428

I think it has afrodeziatic effects. Kinda like oysters but not as nasty

August 24, 2019, 12:20 PM

downtownv

quote:
Originally posted by gpbst3:
quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
CBD is legal in ALL 50 states.
Regulated under the Dept of AGRICULTURE, NOT THE FDA.
Learn the difference between ISOLATES and Full Spectrum and ONLY buy Full Spectrum.

correct
"The main difference between full spectrum and broad spectrum is a full spectrum product is a CBD oil product that contains other cannabinoids including THC and it contains terpenes and flavonoids. A broad-spectrum product is basically the same thing but without the THC. So that's the major difference."

but I also mentioned 3/10ths of 1% is the content of THC. No psycho topic effects.
The isolates are a waste of money like taking too much vitamin c, after your body absorbed all it can or needs the rest is pee'd out...

The oil I got from Joy Organics is Broad Spectrum. It has all the benefits of Full but went through a little extra processing to remove the remaining THC.

I have been taking 15mg of CBD twice a day. I worked a double shift and forgot to pack it. I missed my morning dose and I feel a little more pain in my back today. Dont know if that qualifies as results.

August 24, 2019, 12:39 PM

downtownv

quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
quote:
Originally posted by gpbst3:
quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
CBD is legal in ALL 50 states.
Regulated under the Dept of AGRICULTURE, NOT THE FDA.
Learn the difference between ISOLATES and Full Spectrum and ONLY buy Full Spectrum.

The oil I got from Joy Organics is Broad Spectrum. It has all the benefits of Full but went through a little extra processing to remove the remaining THC.

I have been taking 15mg of CBD twice a day. I worked a double shift and forgot to pack it. I missed my morning dose and I feel a little more pain in my back today. Dont know if that qualifies as results.

correct
"The main difference between full spectrum and broad spectrum is a full spectrum product is a CBD oil product that contains other cannabinoids including THC and it contains terpenes and flavonoids. A broad-spectrum product is basically the same thing but without the THC. So that's the major difference."

but I also mentioned 3/10ths of 1% is the content of THC. No psycho topic effects.
The isolates are a waste of money like taking too much vitamin c, after your body absorbed all it can or needs the rest is pee'd out...

August 24, 2019, 12:58 PM

Black92LX

quote:
Originally posted by Beancooker:
Black92lx,
We actually manufacture this where I work. Not the CBD, but products that CBD goes into. Provided you don’t live in a state that we are not permitted to ship CBD products to, I would be happy to send you some to try out for your grandfather. Consider it a karma and pay it forward sometime. Shoot me an email with your shipping address and I’ll send it out.

That is much appreciated. I’ll send you an email.

Thanks for all the input folks. Had to swing into the pharmacy today for my boy so I talked to them about it.
This is an independent, compounding, full blown pharmacy only not a big box shop or any anything like that. These folks know their stuff and I won’t use any other pharmacy. They are there to provide quality care and products and have been in business for quite some time not to just make a buck. She was very supportive of it and uses it herself. They are only open a couple hours on Saturdays and were rather busy so I am going to swing by next week and she is going to drop the knowledge on me.

The stuff they sell in particular is all US derived, and all from Kentucky. Each bottle has a QR code on it you scan and it links you to the full breakdown of the product by an independent 3rd party lab (taken with a grain of salt as I am sure they are paid to test the samples).
But any way this is a good point to start the education and discuss with my grandparents.

August 24, 2019, 01:34 PM

Il Cattivo

quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Only a very very very strict drug test would be triggered by CBD. There are water soluble CBD's that contain 0% cbd.

Apparently that's the point - it seems to take pretty specialized testing to distinguish between the two; certainly testing that is unavailable to a street cop and both difficult and expensive for local prosecutors to make use of.

https://sigforum.com/eve/forums...935/m/4590051954/p/1

quote:
The President wants to pay back Big Pharmas F-U when he requested them to roll back their pricing and instead, they raised them.

Fine by me - everyone else seems to believe that there's a difference between government coercion and negotiating with the government, so I guess I do too.

quote:
Originally posted by Ripley:
How do reduced/raised cortisol levels affect someone?

From the quick peek I took online when I first saw smithnsig's post, it seems to be what feeds the "fight or flight" instinct.

August 24, 2019, 03:45 PM

bigmule

Buyer beware. If it was not said already, the fed ain’t touching it. And Massachusetts at least won’t either, yet mass does regulate pot. Stupid politicians. One more time, all together now.., STOOPID POLITICIANS!

You must vet your source.

Most CBD products from outside the US are totally suspect and won’t pass even a basic heavy metal test.

I can attest to salves, it does meet the same level of pain relief as a salve as aspercreme or cortisone for my needs.

Good luck.

August 24, 2019, 05:17 PM

ZSMICHAEL

quote:
I think it has afrodeziatic effects

That was funny. So you end up looking like OJ Simpson back in the 1970s? Spellcheck is your friend.

August 24, 2019, 05:34 PM

craigcpa

quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
I think it has afrodeziatic effects

That was funny. So you end up looking like OJ Simpson back in the 1970s? Spellcheck is your friend.

Okay, that’s a screen full of spray.

August 24, 2019, 05:44 PM

nighthawk

Our Aussie had 2 ACL surgeries years ago, didn’t recover liked we hoped, kind of hobbled around the house, had him on tramadol, that helped some, tried some CBD from a pet source company. He still limps some, but no where near where he did before, gets up and down pretty quickly now, improved appetite, I consider it a win. Use a dropper, about 3/4 full one time a day.

August 24, 2019, 06:02 PM

cas

It's the most wonderful , underutilized thing in the world. Just like everything else related to hemp and or weed.

August 24, 2019, 06:20 PM

recoatlift

I vape the herb. Calming effects for me, got off Xanax (1mg 4 times a day). I take 1 50 mg capsule daily. This does help my arthritis & gives me a restful nights sleep.

I dare not leave the house with the herb, looks exactly like pot. The suppliers include paper work & 3rd party lab results...still, looks exactly like weed. I’m sure the K9 could give a rats ass about paperwork & the man is right there, busted.

August 24, 2019, 07:15 PM

smithnsig

quote:
Originally posted by Ripley:
quote:
Originally posted by smithnsig:
It, like Ashawaganda root will reduce cortisol.

How do reduced/raised cortisol levels affect someone?

Cortisol

August 25, 2019, 12:46 AM

Icabod

My almost 15 year old corgi has arthritis in his left front shoulder. He was on tramadol and carprofen. The pain was “tolerable” but he wasn’t happy and couldn’t move well. I tried CBD and in three days saw great improvement. Our dog trainer, ACO, and our vet agreed. He’s more alert and moves better.
Now the rest of the story. I ran out of brand of CBD and got another brand. Three days later, he was hurting. My 3 year old is noise sensitive. I’ve tried her on three brands and nothing changes. Point is, there variation in the brands and CBD doesn’t work for every dog.
I’ve tried CBD for myself. Two brands of drops, nada. Tried capsules and doubled up. Found some minor improvement. Found more improvement with core exercise and stretching.

August 25, 2019, 06:27 AM

sybo

I cannot dispute that many people poo-poo CBD oil and it’s benefits. I have had three spinal surgeries and could probably fashion a knife outta my parts! I self medicated with alcohol, for years and by the Grace of God put that down after many years. I refused Opiates as my addictive personality might fall in love.

I tried CBD with the utmost of skepticism, and found a real- life relief from pain and insomnia from chronic pain. It has also been a benefit for my 75 year young Mother in law with fibromyalgia.

I will not advertise any specific “brand” as there has been a few I have tried and I will continue to use it as needed. I am amazed still that it is almost 2020 and we as a people turn our noses up on things that are readily available for us with such fear and skepticism. Same for Mary Jane. I’ll stop here

I LOVE THIS FORUM

August 25, 2019, 06:29 AM

clayflingythingy

It's snake oil. You can find people who will swear to just about any snake oil treatment out there. It's placebo effect.

August 25, 2019, 07:37 AM

Ronin1069

quote:
Originally posted by clayflingythingy:
It's snake oil. You can find people who will swear to just about any snake oil treatment out there. It's placebo effect.

Are you basing this on personal experience or simple uninformed opinion?

People who I have much respect for, and are overall pretty skeptical about everything, have found life changing benefits.