Would you travel to Egypt this summer?

March 21, 2017, 12:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
I don't have the fear and loathing of travel a lot of people here seem to, but Egypt at this point should be a no-go for any westerner. It's both too internally unstable and has too many people with anti-western/anti-non-islamic sentiment.

I was Googling for a link to this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxor_massacre

but also randomly found this.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/...e-tourist-attraction

And this post sums up my most recent concerns, and the reason I started this topic.

March 21, 2017, 01:47 PM

Deqlyn

quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
Looks like I'll wait to see if Egypt calms down a bit. Hopefully within a year or two, before I start a family.

best of luck in the search, enjoy the honeymoon and congrats again!

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March 21, 2017, 01:56 PM

oddball

The U.S. has just enacted a ban of laptops and tablets on flights originating from 10 Middle East countries, Egypt included. The UK enacted a similar ban.

I guess Homeland Security knows something we don't.

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March 21, 2017, 06:38 PM

Jimbo54

quote:
Originally posted by oddball:
The U.S. has just enacted a ban of laptops and tablets on flights originating from 10 Middle East countries, Egypt included. The UK enacted a similar ban.

I guess Homeland Security knows something we don't.

Wow! Do you have a link to this? That is a huge move.

Jim

Never mind, I just saw this on Fox. This will get the leftists panties tied up in a knot.

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April 10, 2017, 06:44 AM

BamaJeepster

quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
Looks like I'll wait to see if Egypt calms down a bit. Hopefully within a year or two, before I start a family.

I'm sure you've seen the news, but looks like you made a good choice. Al-Sisi has declared a 3 month state of emergency after the bombing of Christian churches this weekend.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39548645

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April 10, 2017, 07:29 AM

Hawkins

Absolutely.

I went in 2009, a few days after this:
https://www.theguardian.com/wo...kills-french-student and i'm clearly still alive. I was in Cairo for work during the Tahrir square protests in 2011.

Clearly, even Stockholm and Nice can be hit, as can Florida and California and New York.

As long as you're smart, you can minimize risk, but risk will never be zero. You can either never leave the house, or go.

(Petty crime is a bigger thing though. Watch your wallet and attempts to pickpocket you in crowded areas.)

edit: saw you decided to wait.

I'd like to suggest Istanbul as "Middle-east lite".

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April 10, 2017, 09:39 AM

mikeyspizza

Egypt declares state of emergency after Palm Sunday church bombings

Updated 9:59 AM ET, Mon April 10, 2017

Tanta, Egypt (CNN) A day after brazen ISIS attacks killed dozens at two Coptic Christian churches on Palm Sunday, Egypt declared a three-month state of emergency, a measure designed to help authorities root out the killers. . . . .

"The state of emergency means absolutely nothing to me," said Andrew Abdel Shaheed, an Egyptian Copt in Brussels. . . . I personally do not feel safe to return to Egypt."

April 10, 2017, 03:50 PM

flashguy

quote:
Originally posted by PHPaul:
In the unlikely event that I could be convinced to board an airplane for ANY reason, Egypt in particular and the Middle East in general would be roughly on a par with North Korea.

Europe would not be high on the list.

Australia and New Zealand would be good.

Just got back from Australia and New Zealand--you'd like it. Spain was last summer and will be again next Summer (2018).

Egypt? Not right now. Someday, if they get their act together better.

flashguy

Texan by choice, not accident of birth

April 10, 2017, 03:52 PM

flashguy

quote:
Originally posted by jbcummings:
As background, I'm 67. The only out of country experience I have is Canada for work reasons.

Europe is a "No".
Africa or the ME is a HELL NO!

There are plenty of really nice places in the U.S. that I've seen or would like to see. The chances of getting snatched off the street and abused are certainly less here than there. Besides I can carry most places I'd care to visit right here in the U.S. Over there, not so much.

Besides, you said honeymoon. You ain't going for the sights....come on, be honest. If you want to impress her, take care of her and show her some awesome sights here, like Yosemite, Grand Canyon or the Tetons.

Well--the Grand Tetons ARE inspirational....

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April 10, 2017, 05:59 PM

doc45

For the past 40+ years I've traveled extensively through the Middle East on both business and pleasure. Today there are only two countries I'd go to: Israel and Jordan. Pass on all the others, but that's just me.

April 10, 2017, 07:21 PM

RHINOWSO

quote:
Originally posted by Jeff Yarchin:
One of my son's is in Beijing. Ironically that is one of the safest places to be.

Yeah, Chinamen don't Fuck around with security, nor have a problem doling out beat downs.

April 11, 2017, 03:52 AM

sigamt

quote:
Originally posted by Aeteocles:
quote:
Originally posted by fau:
Where else in Africa are you going?

We'd like to go to Tanzania, but for whatever reason, it's really much more expensive than an equivalent trip to South Africa.

If you do decide to go to SA, you're more than welcome to contact me if you need any information.

April 11, 2017, 04:54 AM

Elk Hunter

quote:
Originally posted by Bigboreshooter:
As others have said, I wouldn't go anywhere in the ME, even if the trip was free.

I spent a year as military advisor to Iran, back in 1961-62. My assignment was out in Kurdistan, very near the Iraqi border. So close in fact that we were over flown a couple times by Iraqi jets.

I found the people to be friendly, welcoming, and trustworthy.

Would I go there now? Doubtful. To Egypt? Not a chance. But then I am old, and my knees will not let me run very much. Not to mention the concealed carry issues.

Elk

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