US is monitoring Chinese spy balloon that has been floating over Montana for the past several days
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Originally posted by gearhounds: I wonder what the Chinese would do in the same situation?
They would do what is in China's best interests. Brandon will also do what is in China's best interests.
February 02, 2023, 07:57 PM
Jupiter
I don't take any of these stories about Russia, Ukraine or China as fact. Yes, I think our government/MSM is that corrupt.
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February 02, 2023, 08:05 PM
trapper189
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Originally posted by SIGnified: Lots of ways… But they went and took a look at it with a drive by via an F-22 reportedly
Just how slow can an F-22 fly at high altitudes? Must have been a really large Made in China sticker for a pilot to read it flying by at 200mph or more.
February 02, 2023, 08:10 PM
kkina
[Alec Guinness]That's no balloon...[/Alec Guinness]
Can't find anything on stall speed for an F22 (probably for obvious reasons) but found some discussion on F16 & an estimated stall speed around 200kts for a clean configuration at straight/level flight.
Then again, the same discussion put stall speed at 0/not-defined, if aircraft weight is less than afterburner thrust.
The Enemy's gate is down.
February 02, 2023, 08:21 PM
airsoft guy
Balloons don't really hover, how has it been over Montana for a few days?
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February 02, 2023, 08:25 PM
YooperSigs
Geezus! Can the US Government be any more gutless?
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February 02, 2023, 08:26 PM
parabellum
They want to rattle us, make us jump and shout.
The truth- despite all their posturing and despite the United States having a drooling half-wit for president right now, China knows we possess a nuclear arsenal capable of wiping their smug shit right off of this planet.
Rattlesnakes don't commit suicide.
Let their silly balloon float. It doesn't matter.
February 02, 2023, 08:27 PM
ulsterman
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after it was spotted and reported by civilians in a commercial airliner
Our intelligence community appears to be asleep at the wheel.
February 02, 2023, 08:31 PM
Skins2881
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The brazen move comes days before Secretary of State Antony Blinken is expected to travel to the Chinese capital for high-level talks.
The power move which I would like to think Trump would do would be this. Shoot the thing down, collect it's hard drive or other obvious components and have A. Blinken hand it over at the talks and say "hey guys, I think you might have lost something."
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis
February 02, 2023, 08:42 PM
SIGnified
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Originally posted by trapper189:
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Originally posted by SIGnified: Lots of ways… But they went and took a look at it with a drive by via an F-22 reportedly
Just how slow can an F-22 fly at high altitudes? Must have been a really large Made in China sticker for a pilot to read it flying by at 200mph or more.
Camera/optics … point the jet up … snap photo … burst it off for analysis
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February 02, 2023, 08:50 PM
Balzé Halzé
Why the hell have we not blown it out of the sky yet? Regardless if it's Chinese or not.
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February 02, 2023, 08:56 PM
Rick Lee
Nothing wrong with tracking it until we have a way to bring it down intact and dissect it for every iota of intel. But, alas, I'm sure that's not what we'll do.
February 02, 2023, 09:29 PM
Redhookbklyn
We should catapult Stacey Abrahms at it.
At the very least it would scare the shit out of the person looking at the video for the Chinese.
More likely the Chinese surveying land to purchase.
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February 02, 2023, 09:31 PM
parabellum
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé: Why the hell have we not blown it out of the sky yet?
That's what they expect us to do.
February 02, 2023, 09:36 PM
MikeinNC
It should have never been allowed to enter US airspace. I’m sure that NORAD or civilian air traffic controller’s saw it’s approach.
Hail it on the radio. Send a plane to do a flyby. Shoot it down. BEFORE it enters our space.
This is saber rattling by the CCP. They already have satellites that can see into our country.
Now that is inside the US airspace, it should be shot down immediately. Doesn’t matter where it splats. Shoot it down, scrape it up, send it back to them on a boat. And fuck em if anyone inside it die.
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February 02, 2023, 09:45 PM
x0225095
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Originally posted by MikeinNC: It should have never been allowed to enter US airspace. I’m sure that NORAD or civilian air traffic controller’s saw it’s approach.
Hail it on the radio. Send a plane to do a flyby. Shoot it down. BEFORE it enters our space.
This is saber rattling by the CCP. They already have satellites that can see into our country.
Now that is inside the US airspace, it should be shot down immediately. Doesn’t matter where it splats. Shoot it down, scrape it up, send it back to them on a boat. And fuck em if anyone inside it die.
This. Why the controversy and discussion? I’d like to harvest its technology so we know what it was, and could be, capable of but why it is still floating around is beyond me.
“The pentagon recommended against it?”
Assuming that statement is even true, you mean the bagram pentagon? LOL…
General Mi Li doesn’t know his ass from a hole in the ground.
You’re the freakin leader. L E A D.
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February 02, 2023, 10:44 PM
Ackks
Where is Michael Keaton and the Batwing when you need them?
February 02, 2023, 11:09 PM
Rightwire
Wait... this is over Montana.
See the red spots, that is where all of the people are. See the big green spaces, that is where no one is. Who exactly are they afraid of hurting if they shoot it down???
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February 02, 2023, 11:15 PM
kkina
Somehow this old music vid seems appropriate today...
