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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Biden sure as fuck made for damn sure they gathered everything they needed.

I blame Biden for everything too, but I'm sure we all realise that Joe has absolutely no say in any domestic or foreign policy, or decision making processes.

On broad or general principles, I think Douglas MacArthur might have been right when he wanted to take out China - including nuclear weapons - back in 1951.

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Originally posted by Ironbutt:

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Biden sure as fuck made for damn sure they gathered everything they needed.

I blame Biden for everything too, but I'm sure we all realise that Joe has absolutely no say in any domestic or foreign policy, or decision making processes.

He and he alone has put trans freaks in charge of the country.

He is 100% responsible for this mess.

Also the shitbags who thought they were getting free shit for voting for him, and even worse the stupid piece of shit closet demorrhoids who vote 3rd party just to protest they don't like the Republican candidate.

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And the shitbags who thought they were getting free shit for voting for him.

They have and are getting plenty, no work requirements for govt cheese. He just hasn't delivered on education loan welfare, yet

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:

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Originally posted by Ironbutt:

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Biden sure as fuck made for damn sure they gathered everything they needed.

I blame Biden for everything too, but I'm sure we all realise that Joe has absolutely no say in any domestic or foreign policy, or decision making processes.

HE and he alone has put trans freaks in charge of the country.

HE is 100% responsible for this mess.

And the shitbags who thought they were getting free shit for voting for him.

Biden only repeated names that he was told to put in in cabinet or agency positions. Hell, he can't even remember the names of people he's talking to when making speeches! Biden hasn't made a decision for himself in a long time.

Granted, he was always an asshole, but he's had dementia for alot longer than he's been President. Why do you think his presidential "campaign" was so well choreographed to avoid any human contact? Covid was just a very convenient excuse to keep him safely in his basement.

A good friend if the family has a summer place in NC on the coast. He watched the shoot down from his deck.

How it's done.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:
I'm thinking BUFFOONS as in clowns, NOT baboons!

Used in a sentence...They are simply incompetent buffoons who have no idea what they are doing! Just Sayin'

Better word

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Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:
How it's done.

When men were content being men.

The administration is now claiming that three balloons came over during the Trump administration and they did nothing.

John Ratcliffe just categorically denied that that ever happened.

Leftists lying? Again? Say it ain't so.

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When men were content being men.

It's probably a safe bet that he didn't wear skinny jeans or have a man bun tucked up under that hat either.

It's always Trump's fault, of course. Until they produce evidence to back their claim, it's just business as usual with these phonies. The man on the street will not factor into this incident the claim of "it happened under Trump". All they have seen is what happened this week. Being told that "Trump did it, too" means next to nothing.

I contend that this incident is good for the security of this nation, despite surface appearances. There appears to be an increased distrust of China among the politically indifferent. There is talk of and seems to be support for bolstering our military arsenal. The Biden administration and our "top" military leaders came out of this looking like indecisive buffoons, and that doesn't decrease China's fear of us because it's been a while since they feared us at all. What it may do, though, is affect the choice of some voters. When people are told that there is a "thing" from a hostile foreign government hovering over the United States, it gets their attention and makes them worry.

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Originally posted by r0gue:
If a few rounds of 20mm pierced both sides of that balloon, it'd have come down plenty quick.

Didn't work out the last time it was tried...and it was at an approachable altitude

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/161687.stm

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Two Canadian air force CF-18 fighters fired more than 1,000 rounds of cannon shells into it off the coast of Newfoundland.

An Icelandic official said the Canadian attack caused extensive punctures but failed to release the helium gas from the balloon.

A few of the reports from former military pilots I trust are indicating it was an AIM-9X Sidewinder with no warhead. The 9x does not require a conventional heat signature for guidance and basically popped the base of the balloon.

Trump voice/ "Bill Chiner for the missile!"/Trump voice off

RMD

Yep on the AIM-9X without a warhead. I just watched Ward Carrolls youtube channel and he explains why it was used over shooting it with 20mm rounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2xz21HvLs8&t=305s

There has to be drone technology that could have been used to capture this thing and bring it down in one piece.

If not, they need to start working on it.

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Originally posted by VANQUISH:
There has to be drone technology that could have been used to capture this thing and bring it down in one piece.

60,000 feet- that's 11.3 miles. Hobby Lobby ain't gonna cut it.

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Originally posted by sigarms229:
Yep on the AIM-9X without a warhead. I just watched Ward Carrolls youtube channel and he explains why it was used over shooting it with 20mm rounds.
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Thanks for posting the video. I was in favor of using a guns kill on the balloon but, given the specific circumstances of this particular engagement Mooch mentioned in the video, it sounds like using a missile was not only the right call, but the only call.

That YT link appears to be time coded to near the end of the video, if that matters to you.

President Trump did exactly what I hoped he would do:

Never Happened

If these pathological liars in the Biden administration wish to persist with this claim, then, show us the evidence.

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And former Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe, who lead ODNI after Grenell and through the end of the Trump administration, also refuted the claim.

"It's not true. I can refute it," Ratcliffe said on "Sunday Morning Futures." "The American people can refute it for themselves. Do you remember during the Trump administration, when photographers on the ground and commercial airline pilots were talking about a spy balloon over the United States that people could look up and see, even with the naked eye, and that a media that hated Donald Trump wasn't reporting?"

He added: "I don't remember that either, because it didn't happen."

Bravo. Exactly right. The Trump-hating news media would have made this a huge issue. They never had the opportunity to do so, because it never happened.