Bought five pair of seats to the Padres during their pre-season sale.

Was just offered a refund or credit for the seats. First thing I needed was my account number. That email was replied to within five minutes.

Next question was if I would also receive all the "processing fees" required for the purchase. Still awaiting the answer...

Well at least the Red Sox are undefeated and the Skanky Yankees haven’t won a game so far this season!!!!

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Originally posted by 357fuzz:
Well at least the Red Sox are undefeated and the Skanky Yankees haven’t won a game so far this season!!!!

LOL

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Originally posted by Phantom229:
When you're a Mariners fan and the MLB isn't stepping up, you're just happy the Ms aren't losing.

We are still tied for first in the AL West! I guess we still are tied for the best record overall too, lol! Six months ago I wouldn’t have believed it

Don’t worry, we will screw it up around the All Star break.

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No matter what happens as far as re-opening and playing some games, everyone knows the pie is going to be much smaller and that everyone is only going to get a much smaller piece this year. But, it's better than nothing.

Enter Blake Snell, a 27-year-old former Cy Young winner for the Tampa Bay Rays, who’s thrown gasoline onto the smoldering labor fire by declaring outright that he won’t play for less than his full salary. (Contracts are per season, not per game, so he theoretically has legal ground to stand on … if he wants to stand there, that is.)

It's just not worth it....

Tampa Bay Rays Pitcher Blake Snell discussing MLB’s revenue split proposal on Twitch:



MLB stars Bryce Harper and Nolan Arenado threw their support toward Blake Snell, who said Wednesday he wasn’t going to risk playing baseball for less money amid the coronavirus pandemic.

Snell, the Tampa Bay Rays’ 2018 American League Cy Young Award winner, said during a Twitch livestream, “Y’all gotta understand man, for me to go, for me to take a pay cut is not happening, because the risk is through the roof, it’s a shorter season, less pay.”

“I gotta get my money. I’m not playing unless I get mine, OK? And that’s just the way it is for me. Like, I’m sorry you guys think differently, but the risk is way the hell higher and the amount of money I’m making is way lower, why would I think about doing that? Like you know, I’m just, I’m sorry.”

These idiots just cannot help themselves. I was hopeful, Gave them a chance. But they blew it. So Screw them too.

And no I did not listen to his stupid little video. No need. It is obvious what the situation is.

Don't want to play your little game. Give Americans a chance to enjoy something historically way more important than your little self during a time when it would do some real good. Yeah, we get it.

Screw you!.

Tone-deaf dumb-asses.

If you really believe you're risking your life, it wouldn't be about the money.

Go ahead & stay home bitches. Your share of that is $Zero.

Snell, nobody wants to hear the problems of a millionaire.
You have a contract that will pay you 8-figures over the length of a guaranteed deal. Nobody is asking you to tear it up, it's only this season that OBVIOUSLY is going to be a LOT different than normal. SHTFU, if you don't want to play, nobody is forcing you. STFU

Hate to say I told ya so, but this should come as no surprise to anyone who's watched baseball for a least the past ten years. These players make insane money to play a 'game', and they've lost all sense of how lucky they are and what a privilege it is to be so blessed with the opportunity to play this game. They do not get up at 4:30am every day to go to their job doing roofing work year round in Florida for $15/hr. As I noted early in this thread, the likelihood there will be any season at all this year is slim, and it will all be due to the MLBPA's refusal to let it happen. But as an upside, all the guys in the minors can try and go back to loading trucks at UPS or working at Home Depot, assuming those jobs are even available at this point.

Wow: I love the game of baseball, still play in an over 40, wooden bat, fast pitch adult baseball league. I used to watch MLB, but have pretty much given up on following them or any other pro sports in the past several years. I do follow college baseball (attend the CWS almost every year) football and lacrosse. The rest of the sports world is of little interest to me any more. Watching a dooooooooosh like that guy only makes me more determined to avoid paying attention to pro sports. What an arrogant, tone def and completely out of touch ass.

MLB Commissioner Says 2020 Baseball Season Will Likely Be Canceled Amid Labor Dispute

Talk about a bitter irony. During an ESPN program entitled "the Return of Sports", MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred announced on Monday evening that the league is on the verge of scrapping the 2020 MLB season, a 180-degree reversal from his promise made last Wednesday that a season would "100%" happen, even if players had to perform in empty stadiums to TV-only audiences.

WSJ explains that an increasingly fraught labor dispute between the league, the owners and the player's union has jeopardized an abbreviated 50-game season that had been set to start as soon as July 4th Weekend, getting a jump on other American sports. That jump could have maybe helped baseball recapture the interest of fans who have started to abandon the sport. Instead, the problem of how owners can profitably run a business without a critical pillar of revenue - ie ticket sales and sales of food, beverages and merchandise from live game attendfance - has reared its ugly head.

“The owners are 100% committed to getting baseball back on the field,” Manfred said. “Unfortunately, I can’t tell you that I’m 100% certain that’s going to happen.”

Restaurant owners across the US are shutting their doors en masse as millions find that the "COVID-19-friendly" arrangement of dining rooms at 50% capacity simply isn't workable for most restaurants, though some have made it work by expanding their dining rooms to the surrounding street and parking lots.

The problem with the MLB is that owners have been demanding more wage concessions from players. The players union has insisted that players won't accept pay reductions that amount to more than 100% of the per-game pro-rated figure (ie a share of their salary that directly corresponds to the number of games played in 2020 vs. a normal season).

But owners insist that they can't profitably run the business and meet player's salary demands, which the owners have characterized as unreasonable. In recent days, the player's union has asked to see proof that the owners truly are facing economic hardship. Before asking for further pay reductions from the players, owners had settled on the 50-game figure, the shortest of several proposed scenarios, to try and maximize the more lucrative post-season and minimize losses from what will likely be a loss-leader of a regular season. The player's union cut off talks after rejecting the league's third payroll reduction offer. Now, Manfred is accusing the players of negotiating in bad faith.

Then the players union accused the league of negotiating in bad faith "since the beginning". The resulting acrimonious stalemate is threatening to cause ructions that could resonate beyond the 2020 season. The WSJ says both sides are now gearing up for a "prolonged labor battle" that could take years to resolve.

And the two sides haven't even started serious talks in safety protocols.

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...d-amid-labor-dispute

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Thanks for the update Chellim - good info. MLB needs to follow Nascar's lead.

I hope you're not proposing having staged games - 1st stage, 3 innings and a caution for no reason, 2nd stage, 3 innings and an admin time-out and a final 3 inning free for all

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these players make insane money to play a 'game', and they've lost all sense of how lucky they are and what a privilege it is to be so blessed with the opportunity to play this game.

That is why I stopped following baseball a long, long time ago and other pro sports as well. These prima donna players are hugely over paid to play a game and are spoiled and pampered to a point that it's sickening.

MLB's problem isn't that it's "too big to fail", it's that it's "too big to not be this big." If ALL the money isn't coming in from all the revenue streams, it's a losing venture.

As bad as no season would be for the dyeing sport (killed, more than died), I keep picturing the scenario where they have a much shorter season, and the fans LOVE it! Then clamor for the leagues do cut them down, which they can't because they need the money. I mean they could, if EVERYONE was willing to make a lot less money, but that surely won't happen.

There's no doubt that no one understands exactly how much revenue can be generated by an abbreviated season where most venues might not even be allowed to have fans. If there's limited to no ticket sales, the only revenue is from broadcasting. And that's relatively fixed I would imagine. I doubt anyone is running out to purchase gear...

Having said that, no one appears to be complaining or concerned about catching or transmitting the virus, it's just a pure money grab by both sides.

Meanwhile, our son's team has played in 2 tournaments already and we're well on our way to a full summer of baseball.

Come out and support youth baseball!

If COVID-19 has a silver lining for Pittsburgh, maybe it will finally create a money losing situation that will drive the cheapest owner in baseball to sell the team. Robert Nutting's theft of the joy of baseball from the city and fans of Pittsburgh is unacceptable, but there is no way to force a sale unless the product is so putrid on the field that the fans finally refuse to pay money to see it. With Luxury taxes redistributed to small market teams, Nutting is turning tens of millions in profit each year while putting Triple-A baseball on the field. It's disgusting.

From a pure business perspective, you can't fault a business for maximizing profit. But major league sports are subsidized to an insane level, and by taking those subsidies (think stadiums paid for with public money; sweetheart deals for parking and concession revenues, etc) I've read long ago that this team makes money mostly from those things and the seat revenue is basically all profit. With those deals in place, they have an obligation to spend to a commensurate level for talent on the field.

Even in down years, we would go to the games to watch Clemente, or Stargell, or to see visiting players. This economic system, that allows one of 30-ish owners continue to operate at the bottom spending in the league just makes the Pirates a feeder team for teams who play to win. It's frustrating to see a kid time and again watch his favorite player traded away for nothing to just dump salary that they don't want to pay and get a bag of old jockstraps back in the deal, and then they have the balls to say that its a good deal for the team.

I can't take it, I gave up on baseball after I came back after the early 80's strike to only have them do it again. I have refused to put a nickel in the pocket of the current Pirates owner, and will never until he is gone.

Forgive me, sports fans, but at this point, why would you care? Where to begin? Let's set aside the fact that in the NFL and other pro sports leagues, the America-hating, Constitution-hating, police-hating players and owners are spitting on us. Forget that after all that, we still have fans who can't wait to get season tickets or the latest bullshit sports jersey or commemorative whatever from their team, can't wait to throw their money at these people who hate us. Forget all of that for a second.

Let's instead acknowledge the fact that we have grown men who earn their living playing kid's games, and earning obscene amount of money for it. "Tyronquanavious Jackson signs 6.2 billion dollar, three year contract with the San Francisco Butt Miners."

Tell me just why in the world would you care about these pissing prima donna millionaires with their 70 IQ, full body tattoos and their utter contempt for all of us? Why? Why would you shame and debase yourself?

Do you think they give the first fuck about you? Do you think they sit and wring their hands in worry if you are having trouble making your mortgage payment? Do you think T-Quan and his smug thug co-conspirators are going to let you lay up in da crib with them when you're out on the street?

You need to find another pasttime. I am elated that all pro sports are in a coma right now. If there were no pro sports for a couple of years minimum, this woud have a positive effect on our nation. If pro sports went away altogether, I would consider it a blessing from God.

Can you imagine some of these drooling prison escapees having to find gainful employment? I don't mean tossing around a widdle ball and running around like an asshole. I mean an actual, useful, meaningful job.

Abolish all pro sports, and for the love of all that's holy, make it illegal for any supposed learning institution to earn one single penny from any sport. If they want students to participate in althletics, then let the schools pay for that shit out of their own pockets. No ticket sales, no TV broadcast rights, no merchandise sales. NOTHING. And then watch their support for all this tight-pants ball-catching evaporate like smoke.

It makes my dick stiff just to think about it.

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Forgive me, sports fans, but at this point, why would you care?...

Couldn’t agree more Para!

Amazes me how folks look at me like I’m retarded when I say I don’t care about pro sports. Bunch of overpaid criminals for the most part. I grew up when athletes were role models displaying skill, sportsmanship, and moral fiber.

Now it is perverted to where money is the only thing that matters.

I grew up playing baseball and a die hard fan.
I really had aspirations of making it to the minor leagues.

Well the last few years they have killed a staunch supporter not just me but also my father and the other half. She was not big into watching it on TV but she was ready to hit a ballpark.

That has all died. I could care less if major league baseball folds along with all the other pro teams.

Over the years I have grown to love watching minor league teams play (Baseball, Arena football etc..)

The Bismarck Larks had their home opener yesterday and the stadium is sold out all week. It is reduced capacity but the city and players are excited to be given a chance to play.

Also I will be watching the local short track races here in Bismarck. Hmm. Not one driver complained of reduced wages. Funny how that is.

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Abolish all pro sports, and for the love of all that's holy, make it illegal for any supposed learning institution to earn one single penny from any sport. If they want students to participate in althletics, then let the schools pay for that shit out of their own pockets. No ticket sales, no TV broadcast rights, no merchandise sales. NOTHING. And then watch their support for all this tight-pants ball-catching evaporate like smoke.

This is where I am at. Screw them, especially when the #1 draft pick rents a pavilion in a mall to charge fans for a picture and an autograph. While we are at it, there should be no more $1 billion dollar publicly owned and financed stadium for owners or teams.