One of the pleasures of living in SW Virginia as we did for a little over a year total in 2007-8 was visiting Lexington, VA, VMI, and the VMI Museum. We also toured all of the Civil War battlefields in the Shenandoah Valley and eastward in Virginia. Yes, we visited the tomb of Jackson’s lost arm. I’m not a real Civil War buff, but everything we saw instilled in us a respect for all those who fought, but certainly not for the cause for which they fought.

It is very depressing to read that VMI—which is associated with one individual professor and general more than any other college of which I know—is removing the statue of Stonewall Jackson from its prominent place on campus.

Will Little Sorrel be next?

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I would like to buy that statue and stick it in my front yard. Neighbors would love it.

Stonewall Jackson is the only reason anyone even knows what/where VMI is.

Do you think these idgits realize that Grant owned slaves right up until the EP was issued by Lincoln?

Fear not. Washington Monument, Jefferson Memorial, and Licoln Memorial will come down eventually, if the commies have complete power.

The people behind this are no different than the Taliban, ISIS, Mao's Red Guards and innumerable other tyrants throughout history.

I went to VMI for a year (2001-2002). Survived the Ratline but couldn’t balance the academics.

We have a couple VMI grads in the forum.

I have wondered for a few years when VMI would be hit by this shit. It’s painful to see, but I believe it was inevitable. Especially with it being a state school.

I’m not some Confederate flag waving nutjob. But I respect history, good and bad.

Abutting VMI is Washington and Lee University. A lot of history in that area. Painful that they just want to erase it.

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Originally posted by 12131:
Fear not. Washington Monument, Jefferson Memorial, and Licoln Memorial will come down eventually, if the commies have complete power.

Yep. Part of the Four Olds.

Born and raised in Clarksburg WV, the birthplace of the brilliant tactician. My relatives fought along side 18,000 folks in WV for the confederacy during the war of northern aggression. God rest their souls.

Sons a bitches trying to erase history. God damn them all to hell. Rant off....

A friend of mine (VMI grad) said the statue is being relocated to the New Market battlefield.

The insanity continues.

And China continues to laugh at this country, as we do all the heavy lifting in our own demise.

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Originally posted by Graniteguy:...
Do you think these idgits realize that Grant owned slaves right up until the EP was issued by Lincoln?

That’s incorrect.

“We do know that in March 1859 Grant filed the following manumission document.

“I Ulysses S Grant of the City and County of St. Louis in the State of Missouri, for diverse good and valuable considerations me hereunto moving, do hereby emancipate and set free from Slavery my negro man William, sometimes called William Jones(Jones)of Mullatto complexion, aged about thirty-five years, and about five feet seven inches in height and being the same slave purchased by me of Frederick Dent-And I do hereby manumit, emancipate & set free said William from slavery forever.”

It is notable that Grant did not sell or work out a plan with Jones to purchase his freedom, but simply freed him.”
https://acwm.org/blog/myths-mi...s-grant-slaveholder/

“ U.S. Grant had several slaves who were only freed after the 13th amendment in December of 1865. When asked why he didn’t free his slaves earlier, Grant stated that “Good help is so hard to come by these days.”
As Abraham Lincoln argued in 1862, “don’t trust everything you read on the internet,” and this claim is patently false despite its seemingly wide acceptance online. Here’s why.

Prior to the Civil War Grant lived with his wife Julia and their four children in St. Louis, Missouri, at his father-in-law’s White Haven plantation estate from 1854 until 1859. At some point during this experience Grant obtained a slave named William Jones. The sole document we have confirming Grant’s ownership of Jones is a manumission paper freeing Jones on March 29, 1859, written in Grant’s own hand”
https://pastexplore.wordpress....uring-the-civil-war/

My BIL is a VMI graduate who spent 32 years in the USAF as a JAG and when he retired he moved to Lexington. In spite of being born and raised in New Jersey he has great admiration for those who help build and create VMI. There is a HUGE volume of History at VMI related to not only the Civil War but also WWI and WWII. One example of this is the George C. Marshall Library located on the grounds of VMI. Yeah, Marshall was a graduate of VMI. I'll also note that the Jackson statue is directly across the parade ground from the Marshal Library where my BIL gives tours. Don't think I want to mention this during my visit to Lexington for Christmas.

VMI class of 1991 and coming upon 30 years in the Navy. The alumni are surprisingly split on this issue. Some are all for it, while others have ceased donating because of the decision. I remember saluting Jackson's statue every time I walked out of Jackson Arch as a Rat.