I need something for editing 4K video and the i5 laptop isn't up to the task. I've only got the case and video card so far. I think I'm going with a Ryzen 7 3700x unless there's a better choice for the same loot ($283.55). The motherboard I chose was an MSI B450-A Pro but it is no longer available. Apparently, some folks don't seem to like MSI anyway so I'm wondering if I should go with something else. I've used Asus and Gigabyte motherboards for everything I've cobble's together so far.

Is MSI ok? Should I go with something else? The recent version of the MSI (B550-A) is about $60 more than the B450-A was.

Motherboard suggestions welcome.

I've probably built over 100 computers in my lifetime between myself, friends, and business computers. I think it is more important to stay away from the budget lines of any manufacturer. Probably the most I have bought brand-wise is Gigabyte. I tend to buy a middle of the road or higher end motherboard because you usually get better power regulation and better chipset cooling.

I used to build computers.

I stopped when I could consistently buy from the either HP or Dell outlet stores for less money that I could buy the parts.

I only buy business grade machines, the personal lines are two year throw away.

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Originally posted by mark123:
I need something for editing 4K video and the i5 laptop isn't up to the task. I've only got the case and video card so far. I think I'm going with a Ryzen 7 3700x unless there's a better choice for the same loot ($283.55). The motherboard I chose was an MSI B450-A Pro but it is no longer available. Apparently, some folks don't seem to like MSI anyway so I'm wondering if I should go with something else. I've used Asus and Gigabyte motherboards for everything I've cobble's together so far.

Is MSI ok? Should I go with something else? The recent version of the MSI (B550-A) is about $60 more than the B450-A was.

Motherboard suggestions welcome.

I went with an MSI on my last build which admittedly was several years ago. A good friend recommended it, he’s hardware side IT.

Never again, biggest POS ever. The first board was DOA, the replacement barely lasted 4 months. Ended up trashing it and going with an ASUS I believe, could have been a GB. Can’t remember exactly as I’ve used both with success in the past.

My personal experience and again, it has been several years, stay away from MSI.

Yes, MB matters, a lot. Start with Industrial Grade and work your way down from there in terms of what you can afford.

remember all those MB's that were tossed a few years back because of budget capacitors.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor_plague

upgrade that PSU too.

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Originally posted by Twist:

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Originally posted by mark123:
I need something for editing 4K video and the i5 laptop isn't up to the task. I've only got the case and video card so far. I think I'm going with a Ryzen 7 3700x unless there's a better choice for the same loot ($283.55). The motherboard I chose was an MSI B450-A Pro but it is no longer available. Apparently, some folks don't seem to like MSI anyway so I'm wondering if I should go with something else. I've used Asus and Gigabyte motherboards for everything I've cobble's together so far.

Is MSI ok? Should I go with something else? The recent version of the MSI (B550-A) is about $60 more than the B450-A was.

Motherboard suggestions welcome.

I went with an MSI on my last build which admittedly was several years ago. A good friend recommended it, he’s hardware side IT.

Never again, biggest POS ever. The first board was DOA, the replacement barely lasted 4 months. Ended up trashing it and going with an ASUS I believe, could have been a GB. Can’t remember exactly as I’ve used both with success in the past.

My personal experience and again, it has been several years, stay away from MSI.

I'll go with the Gigabyte then.

I have had good luck with my latest build (Jan 2019) using an MSI MB, Arsenal Tomahawk B450. I screwed up and didnt make sure it had onboard HD audio so I had to get a sound card...no biggie.

I use it for HTPC / Plex Media server...

AMD Ryzen 5 CPU, M2 boot drive, GeForce GTX 1060, Rosewill Stryker enclosure, Corsair 750 W P/S, 32 GB RAM

Im not a PC gamer (or any sort of gamer, lately) but Im hoping it will be up to the new MS Flight Simulator!!

You're saying you want this to be a long lasting computer? Starting with older mid tier hardware isn't going to make this a long lasting computer.

I'd go with some of the current higher end parts will make it a longer lasting computer.

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Originally posted by LBTRS:
You're saying you want this to be a long lasting computer? Starting with older mid tier hardware isn't going to make this a long lasting computer.

I'd go with some of the current higher end parts will make it a longer lasting computer.

Wait. These are older parts? I put together a $700 build in 2007 with Asus mb and intel Core2Duo that's still running today. If I can get 13 years out of this one, I'll be more than pleased.

I had Gigabyte years ago and it was fine, but the last few builds I went with Asus as they were more available, had great performance and also had a great reputation. No complaints whatsoever. Top tier.

Just go with something current. Odds are it will be obsolete before anything needs replacing or upgrading again anyhow.

Current systems are topping out on speed and features. They are mostly just adding available cores to use. Software is very behind in using all the cores anyhow.

Gigabyte is usually my first choice. Asus is solid. EVGA is my third choice, but I don't know what selection they have for AMD chips off the top of my head.

Since everything runs through the motherboard and it's the biggest PITA to replace, buy quality.

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Originally posted by mark123:

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Originally posted by LBTRS:
You're saying you want this to be a long lasting computer? Starting with older mid tier hardware isn't going to make this a long lasting computer.

I'd go with some of the current higher end parts will make it a longer lasting computer.

Wait. These are older parts? I put together a $700 build in 2007 with Asus mb and intel Core2Duo that's still running today. If I can get 13 years out of this one, I'll be more than pleased.

The next version of motherbaord is out and the next version of amd cpu is right around the corner.

Nothing wrong with what you're looking at it is just that you stated in the title that your goal is "long lasting". Normally when that is the goal you don't start with mid level parts, you go a bit higher in performance that that hoping you'll get more life out of those parts in the future. Especially if 4k video editing is what you plan on doing.

I just got a new computer with the goal of it lasting for a long time. I went with a X570 motherboard and a AMD Ryzen 3950X CPU which will do anything I want to for years to come. It may be overkill today but will still be strong several years down the road.

I understand budget is often the driving factor which is understandable.

Anyway, good luck and enjoy the new PC.

Never, ever skip on the power supply. The moderate to low cost PSs often last only a few years. They can take out the entire computer, or at the least the unit is dead until you DX and replace it.

I recently built a pretty high-end AMD system using an ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Hero MB. It has been totally solid.

If you would like to spend less, look at the ASUS PRIME X570-PRO.

Good advice on going with a quality power supply if you want your system to last. I like Seasonic.

Good luck!

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Originally posted by LBTRS:

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Originally posted by mark123:

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Originally posted by LBTRS:
You're saying you want this to be a long lasting computer? Starting with older mid tier hardware isn't going to make this a long lasting computer.

I'd go with some of the current higher end parts will make it a longer lasting computer.

Wait. These are older parts? I put together a $700 build in 2007 with Asus mb and intel Core2Duo that's still running today. If I can get 13 years out of this one, I'll be more than pleased.

The next version of motherbaord is out and the next version of amd cpu is right around the corner.

Nothing wrong with what you're looking at it is just that you stated in the title that your goal is "long lasting". Normally when that is the goal you don't start with mid level parts, you go a bit higher in performance that that hoping you'll get more life out of those parts in the future. Especially if 4k video editing is what you plan on doing.

I just got a new computer with the goal of it lasting for a long time. I went with a X570 motherboard and a AMD Ryzen 3950X CPU which will do anything I want to for years to come. It may be overkill today but will still be strong several years down the road.

I understand budget is often the driving factor which is understandable.

Anyway, good luck and enjoy the new PC.

i did put this wishlist together in January and shelved the project until now. I should probably just redo the entire thing.

I have built many PC’s in my lifetime. ASUS is my go to brand for the motherboard. They are rock solid.

What I look for in a motherboard is:

1) Quality manufacturer
2) Does it have all the features I need, wifi, front panel USB 3, etc.
3) Cost.

What I normally do is go to PCPartsPicker and filter by manufacturers first. I usually only buy Gigabyte and Asus boards. Then I filter those by my must have features and then pick the cheapest one listed.

You don't need RGB/Gamer/ROG grade bullshit. You don't have to have the latest and greatest Z chipset. If you were planning on overclocking all your components to within an inch of their lives then yeah, spend a couple more dollars on a higher end MB, but if the spread is more than $100 then go with the cheaper one because that $100 is mostly marketing.

Ah, pcpartpicker is a great resource. Thanks.

I build and support computers for a living.
First, I would never build one AMD based.
Intel is so much better as a company and their product is first class.
Second, There are a few good motherboard companies all with comparable product ~ MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, AsRock to name a few.
I prefer Asus or Gigabyte in my builds.
MB choice should be based on 1) form factor or size 2) chipset to support the desired CPU and 3) features, connections necessary for the purpose of the computer and installation.
A basic computer, a mid-range computer and a high end or gaming computer all with the otherwise same components will all perform the same.
However, a small form factor ITX board may not have the physical room for additional expansion if so needed.
A gaming board considered the best generally, may have more physical slots, allow for overclocking of memory or CPU, may have on-board RAID, may have more connection ports.
But in general, the MB itself doesn't increase performance but the better ones will allow for better peripheral devices to be deployed.
YMMV

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I have built many PC’s in my lifetime. ASUS is my go to brand for the motherboard. They are rock solid.

This has been my finding as well.

JP