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July 28, 2017, 02:23 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Help needed with Spider Identification
Is this poisonous? The spider to the naked eye has a black body with two orange/black spots on back. This is the best picture I could get, but hoping someone would recognize the web pattern. Thanks


July 28, 2017, 02:33 PM
sigmonkey
Type of Orb weaver.

Good guy.

He's your friend.





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July 28, 2017, 02:43 PM
ZSMICHAEL
No, it looked more black and with orange spots on back. It is much smaller. My phobic buddy was convinced it was poisonous. I did not want to get any closer for a pic.
July 28, 2017, 02:49 PM
sigmonkey
Go get closer and a better pic.

If it bites you and it's poisonous, I am pretty sure someone might know what to do.

Maybe...




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July 28, 2017, 02:51 PM
Bisleyblackhawk
It's still in the orb weaver family as far as I can tell from the web in the photo...harmless. All spiders are somewhat "poisonous" to some degree or another...but most are harmless to humans (not so much to bugs Big Grin)

Much useful on our arachnid friends here...

http://spiderzrule.com/commonspidersusa.htm


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July 28, 2017, 02:59 PM
Elk Hunter
It's outdoors, nearly invisible. At least in the picture.

I would leave it alone. They eat lots of bugs, and will absolutely not chase you down to bite you. Razz


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July 28, 2017, 03:42 PM
thumperfbc
The only dangerous spiders we have in my area are black widows and their webs are not cool and structured like that. They mostly hang out in the wood pile or some hidden area.
July 28, 2017, 04:00 PM
joel9507
I may be wrong, but have never heard of a spider dangerous to humans that makes an orb web and hangs out in the middle like that. You don't have to worry about anything more than maybe getting startled when it moves.

You'll need a better picture (different camera/lens or getting closer) to hope for a definitive ID. Many, many species of spider out there. Also a location would help with ID.
July 28, 2017, 04:24 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
You'll need a better picture (different camera/lens or getting closer) to hope for a definitive ID. Many, many species of spider out there. Also a location would help with ID.


Location is Mississippi Gulf Coast. I think my friend has arachnophobia.
July 28, 2017, 05:08 PM
flashguy
Looks like some variety of Orb Weaver to me. Let her be and thank her for her service....

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July 28, 2017, 06:00 PM
10-7 leo
If you are thinking it may be a black widow, they make their webs on the ground and the webs look like a wad of cotton has been pulled apart. A complete jumble of threads.



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July 28, 2017, 06:08 PM
ZSMICHAEL
quote:
If you are thinking it may be a black widow, they make their webs on the ground and the webs look like a wad of cotton has been pulled apart. A complete jumble of threads.


Yeah, that is what my buddy thought. I was not sure so posted it here.
July 28, 2017, 06:22 PM
BillyBadBass
A male black widow does have 2 red spots on the back of it's abdomen. He is generally small and doesn't look like the shape of the one in the photo. Additionally, as already stated , a BW web is not very structured and appears as a random collection of strands.
July 28, 2017, 08:07 PM
egregore
Once, on a car I was working on left on the lift overnight, a spider built a web between the bottom of the fender and the top of the tire. It (the spider) wasn't even the size of my shirt button; the web was dozens of times its size. I hated to have to take it down.
July 28, 2017, 08:49 PM
Oz_Shadow
Not enough fire in that picture to see
July 28, 2017, 09:09 PM
mr kablammo
Three animators interpret the Walt Whitman poem 'A Noiseless Patient Spider'. About 3:30 mins. Well worth the time.

https://youtu.be/6jCw8ydqkrg

I usually leave the spiders be... "some pig" taken to heart


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July 28, 2017, 10:06 PM
henryaz
 
Black Widows here like to web under the arms of our front porch Adirondack chairs. Our regular exterminator nukes them. It's a necessary part of desert life. They also nest other places. I notice whenever a technician for HVAC or plumbing comes, the first thing do is they check their work area for BW's.
 
July 28, 2017, 10:14 PM
slabsides45
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
You'll need a better picture (different camera/lens or getting closer) to hope for a definitive ID. Many, many species of spider out there. Also a location would help with ID.


Location is Mississippi Gulf Coast. I think my friend has arachnophobia.


As a kid I lived in Gulfport for a time. One summer us boys were racing along the top of the levi on our bikes, and I was in the lead. I looked back to see how far ahead I'd gotten, and when I looked back to the front, I had just enough time to realize that I was driving my bike into a ginormous spider web, with it's architect sitting center web. Big, big, yellow and black spider. It ended up on my face, and I ended up tumbling down the hill clawing at my face and squealing like a girl the whole way down. Warped a wheel and put a tear in my yellow and black banana seat, and I never forgave spiders for it.

It was a nice seat....


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July 29, 2017, 05:49 AM
copaup
All spiders are venomous.

Only two spiders in that region are dangerous to humans. That one is neither. Outside of an allergic reaction, the worst effect from a bite would be similar to a bee sting. Maybe super powers if the spider has been irradiated. With great power, comes great responsibility.
July 29, 2017, 05:54 AM
Tommydogg
quote:
Originally posted by slabsides45:
quote:
Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
quote:
You'll need a better picture (different camera/lens or getting closer) to hope for a definitive ID. Many, many species of spider out there. Also a location would help with ID.


Location is Mississippi Gulf Coast. I think my friend has arachnophobia.


As a kid I lived in Gulfport for a time. One summer us boys were racing along the top of the levi on our bikes, and I was in the lead. I looked back to see how far ahead I'd gotten, and when I looked back to the front, I had just enough time to realize that I was driving my bike into a ginormous spider web, with it's architect sitting center web. Big, big, yellow and black spider. It ended up on my face, and I ended up tumbling down the hill clawing at my face and squealing like a girl the whole way down. Warped a wheel and put a tear in my yellow and black banana seat, and I never forgave spiders for it.

It was a nice seat....


Was it a "Cheater Slick" bike?


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